Why do people who think they can translate with machine translation exist?

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  1. Maid Chan

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    I'm the rude one, I was talking with my friend @Maid Chan , this was a conversation between two chicks that you have listened into. *shakes her head* Is that something else "Australians" do? *lols*
     
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    You are wrong ! I genuinely thought you are a cute pavlov !
     
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    It's a public forum. That's not listening in. That's participating.
     
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    So, should I call this forum officially hijacked(?)
     
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    Rumanshi 『Demon Lord』『ルマンし』

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    Yep.
     
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    @Femme Fatale, no seriously. Most of NU i ve met would hold their ground and comment in the most rational buddha way, but this one... He got ruffled so easily, such a rare cute species bless my long time in NU that leads to this experience. Never thought i would seen one.

    Whatever ,im following you now , pavlov guy
     
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    Rumanshi 『Demon Lord』『ルマンし』

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    Hang on, so because I swear I got ruffled? Is this your argument?
     
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    So you swear if you are happy or content?
    I never wanted you more !
     
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    Rumanshi 『Demon Lord』『ルマンし』

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    Actually, I do!
     
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    @femmw fatale see? Told ya ! This guy is misunderstood ! He is as harmless as a puppy !
     
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    Rumanshi 『Demon Lord』『ルマンし』

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    I mean, I do prefer this analogy compared to being a puppy. :/
     
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    Personally, I thought that Rumanshi took a pragmatic approach to the OP's topic and then someone twisted it and interjected the concept of feelings...

    Yeah, there's a human behind the MTL, but there's a big difference between someone actually trying to clean up what got spit out and just posting it as-is...
     
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    Rumanshi 『Demon Lord』『ルマンし』

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    I'll re-answer the question posed:

    The reason that people think they can translate with MTL exist、 is well、 technically、 they can translate using machine translators.

    The consequence、 is、 of course、 that they may not be of quality.
     
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    Im not hamfisting thought ... But sure!
     
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    So, do you mean it is a complete machine translation without editing?
     
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    Editing MTL doesn't help. It will simply become fan fiction.
    MTL and using a dictionary are not the same.
    And yes, lack of English fluency by readers plays a huge role.
    I also want to correct the whole argument that it is work.
    It really isn't..It is equivalent to cheating in an English test from someone who cannot speak English.
    It is stupidity at its finest
     
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    Lol I tried reading one of the chapters and @-@

    I understand OP’s sentiment to a certain extent though, because if you’re really excited to read the next installment of one of your favorite novels and you get... whatever that mess is, it kinda ruins stuff :( And it is also pretty disrespectful to the original meaning of the work (if we disregard the legality of fan translations).

    I do agree that there are good MTL-ed novels though! But those translators also put in a bunch of work editing and researching terms or idioms that get screwed up by the machine, so even if not every detail is captured, it’s fairly accurate. I thought that there was a rule for NU links that really badly MTLed chapters would not get to be linked here? There’s a forum thread all about linking and translator rules somewhere...

    By the way does anyone know how to edit links for already released chapters? Or report them to get dead ones fixed?
     
  19. Solus

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    Wait, so this translation is stolen? Why credit other site?
     
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    Beats me. They don't exist on the other site, but the credit is in the text.
     
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