Discussion Why is that character alive? They should be dead from that fall!

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  1. Kadmos1

    Kadmos1 Well-Known Member

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    Suppose you are watching a movie or TV/web show or reading a comic with the following scene: On a tall building, multiple people are fighting each other. Then, an explosion or attack knocks 1 or more people off said building. Later on, at least 1 of those fallen are revealed to have survived. This is not necessarily a butt-pull or plot hole. Perhaps they were falling and something or someone broke the fall. This could include a scaffolding or shaft impaling their clothes enough to stop the fall. Now if that person was stabbed and had multiple broken bones prior to the fall, that is where they would be more likely to die and thus them coming back might be more of a butt-pull.

    Let's use a specific example. Suppose Peter Parker was, as Spider-Man, battling Green Goblin on the top of the Empire State Building. One of Goblin's pumpkin bombs from his glider or his razor bats hits 1 of Peter's buddies off the edge of the building. That buddy (for the sake of argument, we will call this person "Jamie" as it is a unisexual name) might have either observing (be it as a kidnapped person or not) or was helping Spidey fight! We see the body fall! However, 10 issues later we that Jamie has survived.

    To account for how Jamie survived and it not being some supernatural salvation, how would the comic book writers explain that? Some "real world" examples could be the following: as Jamie is falling, a swing stage stops their fall because Jamie collapses into the it. Another example could be that the friend sees some wiring or antenna on 1 of the lower levels. Jamie either grabs that wiring/antenna or that wire/antenna pierces Jamie's clothing. However, Jamie didn't survive entirely unscathed. Maybe Jamie has busted leg or arm and is still in recovery, such as in a wheelchair.

    Thoughts? For the record, I never really got into Marvel or D.C. Comic books but a limited understanding of how their stories go. More specifically, the type of knowledge from looking at info site such as a wiki page.
     
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    phucanhcr02 Well-Known Member

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    DIRECTORS' WILL.
     
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    Underload <I need someone to scratch my back!>

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    Author's authority.
     
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  4. ReadOrDie

    ReadOrDie already dead

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  5. Liyus

    Liyus Laksha's Desu~ Cat

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    Yeah, can you explain me why when trainer on pokemons still have the pokeball in the hand after they throw it away to call the pokemon?
    Don't try to guess physics of finctions....
     
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    Kadmos1 Well-Known Member

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    Sure, the director of a movie version can say a character survived that fall this way. I was referring to how that fall could be explained more naturally vs. some supernatural salvation!

    Explaining the physics of fiction carries more weight (joke there in the sense of physics and weight) depending on the specifics of the situation. Me explaining that fall is easier than @Liyus' Pokémon example.
     
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  7. RNGesus

    RNGesus <<+10 Luck upon seeing this Nuffian>>

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    I happen to roll a die in these situations :blobpats:
     
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    Kadmos1 Well-Known Member

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    Suppose when a writer was doing the script for that scene, they literally cast a dice cube. If the result was odd, it was a naturally-explainable survival. If It was even, it was a supernaturally-explainable survival. Personally, I would want it to be odd because a natural explanation might sound more discussion-worthy!
     
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    RNGesus <<+10 Luck upon seeing this Nuffian>>

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    I think what you're looking for is an explainable survival that follows the rules of the world they belong in, or if the plot actually requires the survivee to have a reason to stick around other then lazy scriptwriting.

    Rather then "how" Jamie survives the fall, the bigger question would be "why". For example, Spidey actually layered webs around the building to catch people b4 the final battle. Or Ironman happened to be there to catch any poor sap that got kicked off a building. Or it turns out Jamie had soul-transferring capabilities and shunts to another clone. Honestly the "why" is the answer we should be asking rather than if the answer is normal or supernatural.
     
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  10. Miserys_End

    Miserys_End 「Lv1 Pretend Person」I'm the preson i pretend to be

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    Rooftop pool on the building nextdoor. Trees can function as a speed break as well if the building isn't overly tall.
     
  11. Kurotsubaki

    Kurotsubaki Reincarnation of the Seven Deadly Sins

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    Nice pun
     
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    GonZ555 What i want for christmas is you

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    Cables, outdoor fan, emergency ladders flagpoles and cloth terrace broke their fall~
    And probably dislocated all their bones~
     
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    kennykdogg Sage of 7 sins

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    I don't know what your talking about. but i love a disfigured friend/family thought to be dead but back as a villain storyline.
     
  14. Wujigege

    Wujigege *Christian*SIMP*Comedian

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    Jamie is IMMORTAL!!! :blobhero:

    Or a slime....:blobneutral:
     
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    Actually there are a lot of cases when human survive from falling extraordinary height (failed parachute etc), while at the same time not few people died from falling from their bed/stairs

    It really depends on how you land, basically luck. So yea, sometimes reality is stranger than fiction because fiction needs to be believable and consistent to avoid breaking immersion even though it is entirely within the realm of possibility
     
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    lnv ✪ Well-Known Hypocrite

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    People have fallen from over 20 story buildings and walked away with only a broken arm or minor injuries. It's all a matter of how you fall. This is why you can have people who tripped and fell from no height at all get seriously injured or even die and people who fall from a crazy height and live.

    Sure there can be 3rd party factors such as falling on something that brakes your fall, but the state of your body is also important. For one, opening up your surface area would reduce the rate you fall at due to increase aero drag. Being less tense and relaxing also reduces your chance of injury. Even things like your breathing can influence your chance of living or dying.

    So to answer your question, its possible. Though I will note Marvel and DC aren't known for following any scientific laws. Hence why some genius is able to compete with aliens with tech 1000 years ahead of us.
     
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    Umm... Palpatine apparently survived his fall into the reactor... so... falling off some puny little building can't be that bad...
     
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    You don't question why Jamie lives, for it is the will of 'the One above all'
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    Probably, perhaps, Jamie got some later role and it is too early to kill him/her/it :blobunsure:
     
  19. Kadmos1

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    If it was a nagging Flat-Earth mother-in-law who saved Jamie, Jamie might have preferred to have died!