LCD Release that Witch

Discussion in 'Latest Chapter Discussion' started by Dusk, Jun 30, 2016.

  1. Cutter Masterson

    Cutter Masterson Well-Known Super-Soldier

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    I said it in first post, but I’ll say it again. A mortar would be so much more easier then building a machine gun. And second who said anything about trench warfare? I was thinking something along a small mobile mortar.



    Don’t get me wrong. The machine gun and mortars have their own roles to play. I’m just saying instead of building a weapon with many moving parts, with long build times. Is not as cost effective as a tube of metal would.
    So if you add all that. You also have a better chance for craftsman to build them instead of having everything done by witches. And lastly their both design to defend against mass attacks.
     
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    Will the MC ever build other things like generators and invent kevlar? Surely superior body armor beats sub-par weapons, though I know the MC isn't specialized in manufactured armor.
     
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    Get bored after end church war.. Roland lack(get slowed and stagnant) to build or inovation. Get afraid after discover enemy ability but not to try boost NWC strength.

    Asap roland need more fast and more long and wide range bombing to replace mancy co..
    Need a scout ranger to patrol and secure from enemy attack west NWC wasteland and ruin taqila.. NWC still lack devil early warning from long distance. still used mancy and lightning to scouting them..
     
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    "After m*king love"
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    Well that couldn't get any more blunt doesn't it?:blobxd:
     
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    What did they do to love?! What the hell can "m*king" possibly mean?! Chinese censorship is just too high level.
     
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  6. VinnyOni1

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    After so many physical activities during the night, Roland feared that she was feeling uncomfortable despite her exceptional recovery capabilities.

    "What nonsense." Anna laughed meekly. "You're a prince."

    He shook her head and did not say one more word. Instead, he pulled her into his arms. After embracing for a while, she patted him on the back. "Alright, that's enough. Since you're awake, hurry up and eat your breakfast. I still have work to do today."

    "Shouldn't you rest for a few more days?"
    Roland seems to think very highly of his prowess. Did he think she be would be left bedridden?
     
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    mphucking
     
  8. Habari

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    I agree, in regards to making them it's much easier for mortars than MGs but I also think u cannot really compare them as they are completely different types of weapons for different purposes, as you said.
    Still, I think for the moment the MGs make more sense to build when thinking of the battles he will face in the near future as they are absolutely horrendous weapons of mass destruction when used in open field battles.
    Mortars, in this regard could also be useful to scare the enemy but would not be able to kill as effective as MGs because of their low accuracy.
    As this is just my humble opinion, no offense.
     
  9. alamptr

    alamptr What should i put here

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    Is this novel really not a harem?


    I feel bad for nightingale :blobpensive:
     
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    Cutter Masterson Well-Known Super-Soldier

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    If we were to compare a single MG (machine gun) to a single mortar. You may have a point, but what I’m trying to say is for every MG Roland builds. He could also build hundreds of mortars. He needs Anna to build a MG, but he has hundreds, if not thousands of civilians able to build mortars. MG are also line of sight weapon. Which means it can only kill what it sees. While the mortar has direct and indirect fields of fire. So a mortar can fire upon anything within line of sight and plunging fire.
    Mortars are great and simple weapons. Now I ask you which would be more devastating in an attack. Is it from a single MG or hundreds of mortars?
     
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    Assumes 1 HMG is as hard to build (and worth as much, materially) as 100 mortars. :blobconfused:

    WOAH
     
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    Machine guns can be manned by one person, kill hundreds, and use less resources to make one. Hundreds of mortars would take significant part of his workforce to make, significant part of his soldiers to man, not necessarily kill more enemies, and use a lot more his is resources. They are self-sufficient as a town but have neither infinite manpower nor resources. Hundreds of mortars would put a strain on them both. Plus all the reasons everyone else gave. I can see the benefit of having mortars but they aren't needed. If he wanted to shoot long distance the cannons would still work.
     
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    Cutter Masterson Well-Known Super-Soldier

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    Your right that’s a lot of assumptions, but the math won’t change. 1 Anna vs 1,000s common workers.
     
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    Cutter Masterson Well-Known Super-Soldier

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    Mobile mortars can also be manned by one person. And your right it’ll take more resources. When compared to 1 to 1,000s. Let me point the obvious potential out again 1 weapon in the time of a 1,000s weapons. Since were at this juncture let me point out a few more. One Roland is contemplating creating a roughly a WWI iron battleship. If Roland was worried about resources he would never even consider that option. Two there is only one Anna. Let me be clear if we have Anna doing only MGs, then what about all her other projects? She is the only one who can do any precision work. So she is also the only one that can build the tools to build tools. She is also the only one who can build certain parts, machines, and large projects. While a blacksmith could roll out metal pipes as quick as he builds a sword. Sure the ammo maybe a problem, but you would have still have problems with that with either weapon. Thousands of MG rounds vs hundreds of mortar rounds.
    So your remark concerning manpower is a little off considering there is as I said only one Anna vs hundreds to thousands of refugees.
     
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    After m*king love, Anna rested her head in Roland's arms and nuzzled up against him like a cat.

    Okay, That is just ridiculous. Making love is censor worthy? Really?
     
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  16. VinnyOni1

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    You said 1 machine gun versus hundreds. That was the basis of my statement. A few machine guns can be manned by a few people and deal a lot of damage. A few hundred machine guns can not be manned by a few people. Now if you want to talk on a basis of one to one then it's a different conversation with different pros and cons.

    And because he is thinking of creating the battleship he doesn't have enough resources to build a thousand mortars. And my remark on manpower still stands. You seem to believe that he has men just ready to build mortars. The blacksmiths have loads of other projects. You are operating under the belief that there is a surplus of people to build mortars, a surplus of soldiers to man mortars, and that Roland has enough resources to do all his current projects, the battleship, and build a large number of mortars. At this stage none of those things are true.

    Maybe in the future when he does have those things he can start doing that but right now the men will have enough on their hands just building the new rifles for the army.
     
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    Cutter Masterson Well-Known Super-Soldier

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    My remarks still stand. If Roland can use thousand of tons of iron for a battleship. Then he has the ability to builds several tons of mortars. And the whole thing about not having enough manpower still stands 1 vs 1,000s. But for argument sake let’s drop my estimate by a factor of 10. That still leaves 1 vs 100. As I was saying Roland doesn’t have the man power isn’t correct. He has people sweeping the streets trying to find people work. Besides once the farms has been planted. You’ll have a surplus of personal before harvest.
     
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    Maybe I'm misunderstanding you. Are you staying because he has enough resources to build a battleship, he should have enough leftover to build hundreds of mortars? And that because it takes 1 anna to build a machine gun he should be able to afford 100 people to build mortars?

    Farmers and other people aren't trained for it by the way. You just can't seamlessly transfer workers from department to department. It'll take training and more resources and time and manpower to get them ready. And not everyone he finds to work can be put to work on mortars or even blacksmith jobs. He has to supply workers for every department because every department is expanding. Once again you are assuming he can just assign as many workers as he likes to build mortars. Sure he could, if he wanted to stagnant the growth of his economics just for the sake of weapons he doesn't need.

    I can get how mortars can be useful in warfare but currently it's a priority factor. He has so many things he has to put his resources (men/witches, money, materials) towards.
     
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    Cutter Masterson Well-Known Super-Soldier

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    No. That is not what I’m saying. What I’m saying is that he doesn’t have a resource issue if he’s considering build a metal ship.
    No. I’m not saying that because Anna can build a MG that he could also afford 100 people to build mortars. I am saying the efficiency that your aiming for is an issue. We need Anna building many other things other than MGs. It would be more cost effective to use common labors to build 100 times more weapons then Anna alone.
    And for train personnel. Were not talking about doctors or engineers. Were talking about apprentice type of help for leading blacksmiths. So from master, journeymen, apprentice and helper blacksmiths turning them into leaders of helper and apprentice group. To build parts they can make. Even if we only take a quarter of all the master blacksmith you’d still have more than one person (ie Anna).
    Your worry about growth is a non starter because as I said the workers could be the farming staff unassigned to anything because of the loll in between planting and harvesting.
     
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    Wouldn't building the ship make it a resource issue... it's like if I had $100,000 saved but I spend 90,000 to buy a house. I don't have enough leftover to get a car and keep up with my bills and ect. And as for the training... no matter which part of the process you look at, it will require training to get them able to build any part of the mortar. In this era blacksmithing is the engineer equivalent.

    Anna can still build other things, she has before. And like I said, he is expanding. When farmers aren't farming, that doesn't mean they are free to build mortars. He just finished taking over another city, is preparing reclaim land, connect the cities, expand his economics, start a new political system, and go to war. He is severely shorthanded, which is why he never stops recruiting new people because he never has enough.