Some Games Are More Complex Than We Think



『Ms. Tree』『Ophi-kun's Survival Teacher』, Female
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So... I started playing Five-in-a-row a bit more recently, mainly with @Svalinn and sometimes with @Blitz. It's been an interesting experience, I never gave the game much thought until now and just thought it was an actually fun version of tic-tac-toe. (Because well, it takes 10min to memorize all possible moves in tic-tac-toe, that's not really fun to me.) But after playing a fair amount of games, I started to realize it was a lot more complex than I originally thought.

Trying to come up with winning sequences and being able to follow through with them takes quite a bit of effort, there's a pretty big amount of thinking involved when making each move after the first few ones... And after a while, you start realizing you need to imagine what your opponent will do next when planning your move, to make sure you're cutting their attack in the best way possible, or that you're making your own attack in the ideal way.

I started to exercise a skill I had long stopped using from the time I played chess in a semi-competitive environment. Reading the opponent's plan and starting reading ahead in the game... As in, rather than playing each move on its own, needing to actually plan things out and work in making the plan function the planned way. Often times you end up realizing a plan in your head won't work out due to some constraint you didn't foresee, so you need to go back to the drawing board... And well, that's fun~

I ended up googling a bit about strategies of the game, but uhn... The stuff I found was either too basic and said nothing I didn't already know about or was far too advanced and I didn't understand a word of it. I'd need to search more if I wanted get better at the game... And like... I kinda got interested in learning and getting better.

At the same time, I don't think it's actually a good idea to try learning it seriously... I mean, I only play it here on NUF, and studying to get better at the game to only play here would probably just create a skill gap that would ruin the very fun of the game that I'm having right now... It's somewhat of what I feel when I play chess nowadays actually, pretty much everyone that invites me to a match ends up losing because I still have the experience and skills from the time I played semi-competitively... I'm definitely not as good as I was back then, but I'm fairly confident I can win against anyone that never studied... It's not really the kind of situation I wanna get into in a game I play as casually as this one! xD

Overall, I'm having fun, been a long time since I played a Chess-like game and found someone that wanted to play it regularly (last one I got a bit into was Go, and while I had plenty of fun with it, I only found some people in university that played it before lunch, and then they changed their playtime and I never met anyone to play it with... >.>). I guess I just like this kind of game, it's nice to experience some of them after being stuck with only chess for so long~


    1. Naraku Sep 11, 2019
      @AliceShiki I suppose I can join a bit later~
      Been a while since I played after all... (well since I am in holidays so some months.)
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    2. AliceShiki Sep 11, 2019
      @Naraku Join us! The game is pretty fun! xD
      I only played tic-tac-toe and chess with friends at school, but we stopped playing tic-tac-toe after I got tired of winning all the time and thought them all the possible movements... Then all games ended in draw... >.>

      @DaoFox This seems really confusing! >.<
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    3. DaoFox Sep 11, 2019
      haha, you should try a real world version of "simple in theory. complex in practice".

      look up ingress. its a global faction war between green and blue, enlightened and resistance... frogs and smurfs xD.

      the basis is really simple, there are location points, you can take them over, then you can link 2 for a link and link 3 together for a triangle, a field. the other team tries to stop you or take yours down while they build up their own. scores are recorded at fixed intervals.

      has been going strong for 7years now and only shows signs of going further. great fun, but requires us recluses to me out and about instead of safe and cozy in our hidden dens.
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    4. Naraku Sep 10, 2019
      Oooooh~ I didn't know there was this thread~
      I actually had a game on my phone that was exactly the same to the difference that you could change all the settings. (just took the pic from the Play Store)
      It could be 3 in a row, 4 in a row, 5 in a row and 6 in a row... the size of the board could be at maximum 12x12 I think?
      At every break at school, I played to it with friends~
    5. AliceShiki Sep 10, 2019
      @Blitz Yeah, it's pretty fun when someone joins in! Especially if this makes one of the players change sides! xD

      But mobile and BB Code is certainly horrible... I already tried before... It just doesn't work very well... T.T
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    6. Blitz Sep 10, 2019
      I don't really have much to add on to this topic in particular other than I would play more but mobiles and BB code don't really go hand in hand.

      Well I guess that there's also the fact that multiple players can join in instead of the same 2 person which adds a chaotic spin I would say.
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