Sexual Attraction, Sexual Identity and Emotional Attraction.

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I think I already talked a bit about labels (if not, that's okay, I'm talking about them now~), but... Well, to put it simply, I think they're annoying. In particular, labels related to sexual identity are really annoying.

Like the whole joke of "traps are gay" or that "it isn't gay if they are cute" or something... It's like... That's now how it works.

An heterosexual man finding a guy dressed as a girl cute doesn't make him homosexual, it just shows his heteroattraction (dunno if the term exists or not, I don't care, I'm coining it if it doesn't). Essentially, he is attracted to people of the opposite gender, that's all there is to it. If he suddenly discovers that whom he thought as a girl is actually a man, he may lose this attraction or not, which then touches on his heterosexuality... Until then though, it's just pure physical attraction, it has nothing to do with sexuality.

Being attracted to traps doesn't make someone gay, that's just not how it works, if someone has been attracted to women all their lives, and keep being attracted to women, and has no intention of getting into a relationship with another man, they are obviously heterossexual, and they are sexually attracted to the opposite gender... Which may backfire on them in case they see someone crossdressing.


It's a whole different thing when talking about Emotional Attraction... Which is... Uhn... A bit hard to explain I guess... It's like... It's easier if I use a personal example.

I'm bisexual, and I'm a lot more attracted to girls, sexually speaking. Their bodies are a lot more alluring to me no matter how hot any guy out there is... At the same time, I think I'm a lot more emotionally attracted to men. I feel a sense of security when near men and feel like I have someone I can rely upon, that I can bury my body on and cry my heart out and... Honestly, I would just feel plain weird if I dated someone shorter than me, not because of I have anything against shorter people or because I feel taller people are hotter... I just want to stand on my tiptoes when kissing (it honestly feels scary to even consider needing to bend down to kiss someone), and want to lay on my significant other's chest easily while we're in bed and enjoy a comfy snuggle...

It's a physical aspect, but my reasons are physical... It's weird. Plain weird. But it's how it works.

Most people have matching sexual and emotional attractions I think, but it's by no means a problem to have them as different... One can also think that when someone likes people of one gender, but absolutely can't understand them, so they need to constantly consult with friends, is someone emotionally attracted to the same gender while sexually attracted to the other... It's really not a problem, but not exactly an easy thing to deal with, can be quite a big dilemma.

What really annoys me though, are the labels... I'm bisexual, so I have to like both genders equally, person A is hetero, so they can't find someone of the same gender hot, person B is homosexual, so they can't find people of the opposite gender hot... That's not how it works. People are more complex than a single label for heaven's sake.


Hmmm... This has been something that has kinda been on my mind, but it only came to me enough to make me want to make a blog after reading Nanashi no Asterism... Yeah, that manga really got in me... Uhn... For this one I can't speak without spoilers.

So, while the author doesn't directly give any labels or treats about this part of the characters in particular (especially because they're too young to be worrying about this kind of stuff for the most part) is how sexual identity of the character roster is completely different.

While the 3 girls are on a love triangle with one another (a particularly bad type of triangle when their interests just don't match at that), Kotooka (I really love this girl btw!) is the one that genuinely identifies herself as a lesbian. Tsukasa and Washio are clearly in love with girls, but none of them seem to have a defined sexual identity, Tsukasa seems to be Hetero though, and just happened to fall in love with a girl, while Washio is plain and simple undefined... Which is also okay, especially for her age.

On the matter of Kotooka, it's also nice how she is the only one that understands the feelings of their triangle, and how she tries denying her own feelings... Kotooka doesn't view Tsukasa as a lesbian, but as a girl with a temporary affection for Washio, she wants Tsukasa to find a man for herself, for her to overgrow those feelings and become "normal". Just like she herself wants to deny her homosexuality and keeps on jumping from one boyfriend to another for the sake of trying to achieve this "normality".
I think this is very real and amazing, how she denies herself and tries her best to shy away her feelings, to run away from her own sexual attraction for the sake of what society views as acceptable as well as how she herself wants these feelings to disappear.

The other interesting character is Subaru, which can only feel truly comfortable when crossdressing as his sister, he feels a need for his sister and kinda takes her into himself in order to feel the comfort her presence brings... Tsukasa is a key character for him in an extremely affectionate way, but by no means in an emotional way... And it's also clear how he crossdresses for himself and himself only, he doesn't do it because he wants others to look at him as a girl, but he feels more at ease when he is like that... It feels like the author is hinting that he might actually be transgender, but he himself doesn't even know what that is.
Subaru is a pretty complex character, and that is why he is also a character I love a lot! It's not really clear if what he likes is just crossdressing or if it goes somewhere beyond that... At the same time, he feels like other people falling in love for him can be creepy, so he might be asexual... Or not, because he feels some affection towards Asakura, so he might be homosexual... Or, in case he is transgender, this actually makes him hetero.
I loved Subaru because it shows an extremely complicated conflict within his mind, he has no idea on how he should feel or act for the most part, he is just hoping things don't change and he doensn't need to worry about change... He doesn't need to worry about growing up, or losing the people he cares for... He impersonates a lot of teenage worries, some more common, and some a lot more complicated, he was a really good character!

And what makes him fit this blog post a lot more than Kotooka (even though I like her a lot more), is because the labels just don't fit him... He is in conflict, many conflicts, he has no idea about how he himself should act or feel, labels don't fit him, it's pointless to try and label him because he doesn't understand how they should apply to him. He is just one mess of an extremely realistic character that heavily depends on others and doesn't know how to walk with his own two feet.

And lastly we have Asakura, which is somewhat similar to Tsukasa in the way that he is probably hetero... However... He gets a crush towards Subaru. He definitely gets a clear crush towards Subaru... But Subaru is a confusing character that is hard to define... What does this make Asakura then?
Is he homosexual? But he had a crush on Tsukasa in the past. Is he bisexual? I don't think he looks like it, Subaru seems like more of an exception than the norm. Or is the fact that Subaru is so girlish at times that makes Asakura's heart beat? Is the possible transexuality of Subaru what drags Asakura towards him? It's difficult to say. Because... Those labels don't make any $¨&*¨&(*& sense!!!

Well, that was one big spoiler~
What I wanted with it was to discuss a bit how the whole thing about the labels of sexual identity are limited, and how even if you do have a set sexual identity, you can still have cases of being attracted to someone you wouldn't normally be...

I know a case of 2 people IRL, both men, one is homosexual and the other is hetero... And they dated for a while. One of them was clearly hetero, he loved girls, he was not bisexual or anything... But, he dated a guy, and was serious about it... Why? Because they matched, because my homosexual friend flirted with him and he sort of gave in and decided to see how it went... It's complicated. Sexuality is complicated. Attraction is complicated. Affectivity is complicated. It's all complicated, and I don't think it's a good idea to simply label things in small boxes.

Personally speaking, I was a lesbian for as long as I remember, I didn't even consider dating a guy before I fell head over heels for my ex. I became bisexual after quite a bit of introspection after we broke up... But at that point, I definitely wasn't, I was a lesbian dating a guy I was absolutely in love with.


Love is complicated, it's very complicated and takes a multitude of factors into account, your own identity, your physical attraction to the other party and how you emotionally get close to them are just a small part of it. Labels to categorize people in one way or the other when trying to relate to something as complex as love is... Haa... Honestly tiring.

Uhn... Can I resume this whole thing as "Traps aren't gay!"? Probably not, but it does play a part on why I wrote this tbh, this kind of discussion bothers me quite a bit... I don't think you should bother with labeling someone as gay in the first place, let them do that regardless of who they get attracted to.

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    1. AliceShiki May 29, 2018
      @ReadingSoul Thanks for sharing!

      I understand your feeling of disliking blind dates! I honestly could never even consider getting into one! >.<

      And yeah, your idea of not wanting people to know your tastes makes sense... Well, I can understand those that feel proud about it too though, gives a certain sense of identity... I just don't think people should try to convince others to be proud of their own tastes, when it's a very personal thing in the first place.
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    2. ReadingSoul May 29, 2018
      Say i like some traits that does not mean I'll go out with people only from that group I'll go with the person I like as long as they take care of themselves as I'm looking for a longer term partner not a fling ( may sound rude, but i would rather die about the same time as them not long after) be it male or female

      i find the labels a bit silly as i'm the type that would rather get to know them than the type that wants them to describe themselves with a limited vocablulaty ( not a huge fan of blind dates i'll pick someone i know tyvm)

      and i treat what i'm into as a fetish not a rule for who i can out with and my fetish might even change again over time so saying i'm this, this, and this is a bit of a pain tbh those who know me know what i'm like and those who don't have no business knowing thats just how i feel about this (i also could care less what your into so don't tell me if you don't know me)

      i'm way to spent rn for effort so good on you reading that ramble

      (side note yes it does urk me a bit even if someone likes the same things i do
      do you really need to show the whole world? Do you think i care?
      i find it so strange to be proud of a fetish just as much as i find it strange to be ashamed about having one well some are best left in fantasy >->)
    3. Osamaru May 21, 2018
      ( ̄▽ ̄) except when you're bragging about Alea, right?
    4. AliceShiki May 21, 2018
      @otokonoko Ah, I really agree with everything you said, but in particular, this sentence:
      I totally feel like that! I don't think my sexuality is something I want to be proud of, and it's honestly pretty bothersome that there seems to be a sense of pride on the LGBT community, saying that I should be proud of being bisexual or whatever and... Well, I don't feel proud of it at all? Honestly, it's more of a bother to suddenly fall for someone of my gender while being almost 100% sure I'll be rejected if I confess because I know they're straight.

      It's not really something to be proud of IMO, it's just... A thing, a part of me and something I don't think I should be ashamed about, but not something I should feel any pride on either... I love my girlfriend and I'm not pride of my love, I just love her, that's all there is to it.

      I sometimes feel like I am pressured not only by society as a whole, but also by a part of the LGBT community that wants other people with their identity to be open about it and to be proud about it... Which is just... A no for me. It's my own private life and there is no need for me to be open about it and expose it to the 4 winds. I don't mind talking about it, but I don't want to share it for no reason in particular either.
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    5. Osamaru May 21, 2018
      Ya, that does make some sense. I'm honestly not sure if your view on it is simply rare, however, or part of a "quiet majority".
      Unfortunately, it kinda gets drowned out by the rest of the bullcrap the world keeps perpetuating. I think its more of a frustration about the whole thing.
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    6. ohko May 21, 2018
      @Osamaru @AliceShiki

      Hello there!

      I stumbled by this and I happened to see your comment. I think for me personally, I think I support what @AliceShiki wrote a little more. A major reason for this is because many parts of the world are a very homophobic place, and as a gay person myself, I often feel like I'm forcibly reminded every other day of my lack of heterosexuality because of the environment that I to walk through.

      Just take General Chat on NUF for example -- how often is it that a thread pops up about how "traps are gay"? What is the prevailing culture around here? And is the world outside really all that different?

      It's impossible for me not to see it, and impossible for me to not think about it, because it's shoved in front of my face every day. Just like it's hard for a black person to not think about their own race when a police officer pulls over their car. We're painfully aware of our own identities not by choice, but rather because of the environment around us. There's a certain degree of privilege that comes with people who don't need to think about their race or gender or sexuality on a regular basis, because it means that they have the luxury of not having their race/gender/sexuality impacting their life. Many minorities don't have that kind of luxury to pretend that world is color-blind, because their everyday experience isn't color-blind at all.

      I'm not "proud" of being gay, and I don't care for announcing to the world my sexuality. That's my private stuff, and I'm no more interested in sharing my love life than heterosexual people are interested in sharing their own.

      However, when I live in a world where I constantly worry about whether the next person I meet will give me a disgusted look if they find out my sexuality. We live in a heteronormative world -- straight men can talk about their girlfriends or wives or the hot TV show actress they saw last night without a second thought -- whereas people like me are constantly in these conversations trying to decide whether it's safe for me mention something as trivial as getting a ride home with a boyfriend today, because it's effectively the same thing as "coming out" to co-workers if I do mention a single word even if in passing.

      It's a constant specter that floats over my thoughts.

      The more annoying part is that even if do decide it's safe to mention a "boyfriend", there is typically one of two responses (exaggerated):

      (1) ewww, I don't care what you do at home because I don't discriminate against gay people, but can you like not advertise your gay-ness in front of us while we're talking about our girlfriends and wives? Like, be more discrete about it please? It's just not tasteful or classy at all dude.

      (2) Omgg, you're gay?! I never knew! How come you never told me before?! Please tell me everything, and trust me I'm on your side because my best friend in high school was gay! I don't care if you're late for your next appointment because we have to have this conversation now! Do you like, stick your penis in, or does he stick the penis in you?! How did you become gay? Do you get boners in the men's locker room? Do your parents know? Which one of you is going to propose? Since you're gay, it's now appropriate for me to ask all these uncomfortable questions I wouldn't ordinarily ask heterosexual couples!! Are you planning to adopt kids? Isn't there that thing where a gay couple mix their sperm and do IVF or whatever? Have you been to a gay strip club????
      My sexual orientation becomes part of my identity whether I want it to or not. And I definitely think about it way more than my hair color or favorite food, and it's not by choice.......

      I hope my perspective make sense!

      -- ohko
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    7. AliceShiki May 20, 2018
      @Osamaru Hmmm... I feel it's a bit more complicated, as in... Because there is a strong prejudice against certain types of sexual attraction, it's important for people to have their own identity so as to form a community and becoming able to cope with the prejudice or even fight against it if necessary.

      The concept of sexual identity sometimes feels like a label that is somewhat pointless at times, but they help in creating a sense of community, of letting you know there are others that feel the same and that you aren't weird for feeling the way you do... I think that more than having a problem with sexual identity, I think I have a problem on how people deal with them, and how they can constrain people into being one or another. It's just not that simple, it's pretty hard to find something you truly identify with once you start questioning your own tastes.

      Ideally, I'd love if sexual identity was treated as something as "pointless" as a favorite food, because it would mean society accepts them enough to the point that people no longer care about it for the most part... Right now though, it isn't how this is viewed.
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    8. Osamaru May 20, 2018
      Personally, I hate the idea of "Sexual identity". People make way to big of a deal out of it, make it way to big of a part of who they are. It becomes something closer to race or culture when it should be closer ti Hair color or favorite food. Don't you think it would be silly if someone said they identified as a brown haired person.
      Well, guess it would better to say rather than the idea, I hate how people put such importance on it, instead of letting it be as it is.
      I guess it comes back to like you say, the Labels.