Discussion about the ratings & reviews of Dragon blooded wargod

Discussion in 'Novel General' started by SovereignSamiul, Dec 23, 2015.

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  1. AncientDaoist

    AncientDaoist Well-Known Member

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    I believe that this is when we agree to disagree. I'm not saying it's brilliant as a novel. It isn't terrible though. And as for how generic it is, I think that applies to every single novel in the category. All of them are the same thing. I read mga and think I'm reading pmg or even atg at times AND THAT'S OK. I enjoy the predictable formula. It's what the author does with it that's important. I think the author of dbwg attempts it, although it isn't clear yet ,given that it's not exactly the fastest narrative. As for subjective responses to writing, I'm sorry that they arouse such disgust in you. Especially since it's something that actually kind of always does happen. It's why you may or may not like 50 shades and think it's bad writing. Doesn't change the fact that someone else liked it. Thanks for breaking down your review so succinctly. Not that I agree with your opinion. Which is kind of what a review is. An opinion.
     
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  2. mmsupreme

    mmsupreme How do I change my custom title?

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    a lot of novels are predictable but what people hate is that this novel seems to force relationships which makes them extremely unrealistic. narrative speed doesn't matter in quality of writing mga had the first enemy down in less than 10 chapters. the reason why the first few chapters are shit is because everything seems forced. im probably going to like this novel after chapter 100 since i assume that the whole mother issue will be done with either her dying or long chen leaving and never coming back. at that time it will be easier for the relationship between new characters to change since i assume at most they could know each other is for days and past grievances will be easily amended
     
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  3. Fordask

    Fordask I feel like having a Bacon Pizza

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    While I agree that DBWG isnt a particularly great piece of literature I don't think that its really important. At the end of the day quality of the writing doesn't matter enjoyability does. Strangely enough I haven't found a very high correlation between the two. There are many things that are written very well yet I don't enjoy and there are some novels that are written poorly and yet I love reading. Despite knowing some things are terrible I cant stop myself from reading them.

    The author of DBWG has written a generic piece of work in which a majority of people reading it seem to enjoy. Why write an original story when you can use a template that has been proven to work?

    And Im pretty tired of the subjectivity remark everyone is making. Yes quality is somewhat subjective but I think you differentiate quality to some degree. Read a kindergartner's essay and a college students essay and tell me you cant judge which one is a better piece of work because writing is subjective. All the PC folks out there infuriate me. There is a degree of subjectivity but only to a certain extent.
     
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  4. CDLevit

    CDLevit Aspiring water; spark of cynicism; Em&es explorer.

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    All of you are righ . What are we gonna' do?
     
  5. Ratatoskr

    Ratatoskr [Aruruu's proud dad] [The False Gentleman]

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    Lets party!!
     
  6. Estarossa

    Estarossa 《Master of Dessert》°Resurrected Ghoul°

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    We force him to read the Twilight series.
     
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  7. CDLevit

    CDLevit Aspiring water; spark of cynicism; Em&es explorer.

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    No, no.. Well.. @Tony .. Can you do, pretty please, something like an event/contest.. For the best review? Do we vote for it?
     
  8. Suoh95

    Suoh95 King

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    Life sucks. Deal with it.
     
  9. DarkArts

    DarkArts ✫ First Ancestor of the Assassin Sect ✫

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    We go to war! WW3.
     
  10. Ratatoskr

    Ratatoskr [Aruruu's proud dad] [The False Gentleman]

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    I think thats pretty useless. Who are we to judge whats good and whats not for other people. And reviews aren't supposed to contain hate in them. If its bland just say that its bland, no need for 'this story sucks.repeated line. Oh god why did i waste time reading this'. What are you 10? Hahaha
     
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  11. Fordask

    Fordask I feel like having a Bacon Pizza

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    Well in society whatever the majority of people believe becomes the "truth". So according to the ratings DBWG is an awesome novel and anyone who says otherwise is wrong. You can only blame your parents for giving you genes and an upbringing that makes your opinion differ from the norm.
     
  12. CDLevit

    CDLevit Aspiring water; spark of cynicism; Em&es explorer.

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    Well, you know, @ srfyr has pretty good reviews. The main point of this contest is to show us, the general users, how a review should be done. It's a way to cultivate ourselves, to do something useful, productive and improve .ourselves. like a community game, but more useful.
     
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  13. ApprenticeOfGames

    ApprenticeOfGames That sneaky lil sucker who pickpocketed you

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    There is also the difficulty of writing a decent review. I have read many novels on this site but writing a review is another thing altogether.
     
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    I died laughing at the mother dying bit. XD
     
  15. phoenom

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    rofl guys
    you know what review means right ? or you don't even your personal taste that you trust review all the time
    just use review as grain of salt before picking something
    and meanwhile some of you say that some novel are terrible ..
    but that can't be said with other people ..
    if you don't like it , just drop it no need to be ignorant brat who said this x is crap etc , remember you read a fan translation not a official one (but if read raw by yourself then it different matter already )
    with saying that some novel is shit or crap you indirectly saying that the translator / or machine assisted translator is shit themselves

    tl:dr : just use review as grain of salt before picking something , and and talk shit about something while you leeching from someone , at least don't be so rude
     
  16. PotOfApples

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    You may choose to like or dislike something but there is no subjectivity when claiming if a novel is garbage or not. There are set criteria for deciding if a novel is good or not. A novel is not "art", where a painting or drawing's artistic merits are entirely subjective. With novels, we have a set criteria in which we can rate novels.

    On my second point, a novel with power rankings and structures that come off as generic isn't necessarily bad. Its the combination of all these factors which makes it beyond a doubt, a terrible novel. Same with 50 shades, the writing and prose is bad and the characters feel like projections of the authors fantasies. From a strictly qualitative standpoint, the novel sucks, and yet many people enjoy it.

    Now that we have established that this novel is garbage, OP is asking why anyone would rate this 5 stars. I have yet to see someone who says, "I like this novel and this is why". Perhaps @AncientDaoist can answer this question. To answer OP's question, this escapism fantasy appeals to many of the readers as they project themselves as the MC. They enjoy reading about the MC stomp on people who criticise them and draw parallels to their real lives. Usually, the MC is "bullied" labelled as "trash", and they may relate the feeling with their own sense of inferiority. So seeing a weak MC shocking everyone and becoming strong is their own personal power fantasy, and that's why they enjoy the novel.
     
  17. phoenom

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    sorry , but i stopped reading after this sentence ..
    how do you guys define art anyways
     
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    mmsupreme How do I change my custom title?

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    everybody like's a good comeback story. like the shit team that is about to be disbanded but gets top prize at the end. the pursuit of happiness is also a good comeback story. the mc being bullied or being labeled trash and suddenly becoming strong and shocking everyone is not people's own personal power fantasy but the socially beloved comeback story. this novel first 100 chapters are shit because of the relationship issues that act like the past doesn't happen
     
  19. Simon

    Simon [The Pure One's Chief Steward][Demon Beast]

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    I don't really look at the ratings and reviews, because generally they don't give me any critical feedback about the work. I want to know what are the strengths and weakness of the work and why they informed that opinion.

    Art to me, is an expression of the person through their use of a creative skill and imagination.
     
  20. PotOfApples

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    It can't be considered a comeback story because the MC must have motivations and dreams. That's what I loved about the pursuit of happiness, you see the MC's struggle, you come to like him. Its the same with Rocky or Creed, you love the characters, and cheer them on till the very end. I see no reason to like this MC. He has no redeeming traits or features and I do not connect with the character at all, due to the minimal character development.

    In ISSTH, they had a part where Meng Hao was so angry at being humiliated by Wang T****. That is character development and you can see his pursuit to reach the pinnacle of power is in a large part due to what happened to him. ISSTH also infrequently takes a step back to reflect on why Meng Hao is trying to cultivate to higher levels.

    Without character development, it is no longer an underdog story (which I happen to like), but becomes revenge porn novel, where characters are introduced only to be stomped on.
     
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