Discussion Controversial Opinions on Web-novels

Discussion in 'Novel General' started by Sami11, Jun 8, 2020.

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  1. Sami11

    Sami11 [Level 99 Duck]

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    Do you have any?
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    -Just because a girl doesn't end up in the MC's harem, it doesn't mean she can't find happiness anyway. Whenever somebody says: "Oh, X is so great. She deserves to end up as one of MC's harem members" I suffer from second-hand cringe. She'd probably only be able to see him once a week considering how many members there are. I don't see any kind of happiness in that situation. *cough* Danmachi fans *cough*.

    -NTR isn't that bad. And guess what, I'm not a cuck! I just don't project myself on the MC every time I read a novel. If the situation leads to more character development then all the better! (CD is not necessarily good. Some characters become villainous after it, some become good.)

    -how a Realist hero Rebuilt the Kingdom (Sorry, my h button is broken, I'm using ctrl+v to type lowercase h) is one of the worst kingdom building novels of all time. This is not hyperbole.
     
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    My biggest beef with Webnovels is that not every male protagonist story has to have a harem. As a female, I have tried reading some of the male lead stories, but a big amount of them just have the harem tag. Maybe that's why my favourite webnovel, The Daily Life of the Immortal King ended up as my favourite (but why it gotta be dropped hggggg)
     
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    Liyus Laksha's Desu~ Cat

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    you never read a book where you where so immersed into it, then unexpectedly you got blindsided by NTR? because those book leave a bad taste since they can be traumatizing(personal exerience) after more than 10 years can't still forget that shitty experience when you didn't expect NTR in that book....
     
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    Try Reverend Insanity 100% guarantee of no harem :blobangel:

    I'll recommend A Step into the Past from time to time. People always get upset/avoid it because of NTR tag.

    In this instance I didn't think it was that bad. From the get go you already know she's a wanton woman, and every time MC goes away for too long she can help herself but sleep with someone else cause she's a slut.

    MC eventually gives up on her by the 3rd time or w/e, but she still helps him out one last time.


    I'll avoid NTR in general though.

    Absolute trash novel. Basically any time I see "Realist" in a novel title I know it's going to be shit.

    Maybe not really controversial, but I usually like Status Screens in LitRPG/Game Elements novels. Afaik most people tend to dislike those.
     
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    Darkcrow. Foul Tarnished

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    As soon as I see a Harem tag ,I am like
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    Now a days I avoid Harem like a plague, because it ruins the story for me, I think the authors write this type of novels for the age group in between 13 to 17/18 (It is quite a depressing thought to know that I liked DXD and ATG at one point of my life)
     
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    As a female i tried male protagonist novels but most are harem which i dont like or either very indecisive of male mcs in emotional lines. (I hate those males) so i believe in principle of " out of sight out of mind" . Well i don't like harem of any kind.. to me a person who isn't sure of his emotions isn't worth of my reading . I would rather have a all career male mc w/o emotional line.

    That's why i just read bl novels ,it gives me both satisfaction of male mcs & fluff.
     
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    You don't expect certain death scenes to happen, yet they do. When some read the death of a loved one in a novel and get emotional, they mostly say it's a great piece. When some read a novel that has NTR, they mostly say it's not something they should even expect. Is NTR worse than the death of a loved one? I get where you're coming from, but I feel like NTR should not be the sole reason you drop a novel. Give the author the benefit of the doubt. When you read a novel not for projecting yourself on the MC, you gotta realize these novels tend to try to be realistic and shit happens. Unfortunately, one of those common "shits" that happens is getting your girl stolen from you. Doesn't mean it should be taken worse than losing a loved one or losing your most prized possession, imo.
     
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    Problem is most web novels around are pretty much self insert wishfulfillment novels (especially all the harem trash novels) and a lot of people do self insert.

    Personally I don't really self insert, but I tend to think about what I'd do in the MC's situation. So I'm still 'disconnected' and don't care as much.
     
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    Liyus Laksha's Desu~ Cat

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    so i don't read anything that is tagged as "ntr" or "tragedy", i leave them for who like them.....:blob_coffee:
     
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    I'll add another one "Tales of Demons And Gods" is super overrated and is closer to average than good within its genre.
     
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    Liyus Laksha's Desu~ Cat

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    agree with this, i liked the concept of pratice at the start of the book....but never read past chapter 50 because it's was average....
     
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    Agreed. The only reason its talked about a lot is because it was the CN that a lot of people started with but it really does not have any stand out features that separate from its peers. If Mad Snail actually finished it like a normal author it would be already be forgotten like many other cliche ridden CNs like it.
     
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    Ddraig Frostfire Dragon|Retired lurker|FFF|Loved by RNG

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    Guess what? Not every male protagonist story has a harem.
     
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    Oh yeah I just realized the ultimate controversial opinion I have, reading MTL (with visible raws) gives you a better comprehension of the story than in most novel translations because they tend to skip out on stuff and/or are honestly not that great.

    Even with the really great translators (like say Deathblade) you'll have times where you miss out on things because the original text just won't make any sense in English without lots of explanations that you generally won't get. (Though speaking of DB he's one of the TLs that give a lot of useful footnotes explaining stuff for the readers.)


    Oh and google translate is trash (very controversial opinion within the MTL community), it only makes the text look good and follow english grammatical rules better. It looks nice at first glance but when you actually take your time and read what it says it's bad.
    This is pretty true but how many novels like it are there? Like closest novels that come to mind are Long Live Summons and Douluo Dalu. There's some other novels with martial spirits/souls as well but basically very few where a huge part is to capture monsters and use their powers.

    Other than that it's super generic and cliche, but it's one of the first translated so for most readers it's the trendsetter and the start of the cliches. (And you can't really blame the original for being cliche, though this novel obviously technically wasn't the original everything else copied.)
     
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    Green Apple Actually I'm secretly an orange.

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    There some good male lead novels with devoted protagonists,power couplers or lone mc that are pretty good
     
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    StAr EmPeRoR Well-Known Member

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    can you tell me some of his/her translated novels
     
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    Oh oh I know another big controversial topic.

    I usually prefer DBZ, Naruto, One Piece, etc. fanfics over the originals. :blobpeek:
    I Shall Seal the Heavens & A Will Eternal.

    He's currently translating that Sage Monarch novel afaik, and I still saw plenty of footnotes when I checked it out. (Especially since he specifically went out of his way to westernize the city/town names and such.) Though I'm sad to say this but that novel is generic trash so I'm not reading and not up to date with his translations...

    But ISSTH is a classic I can recommend trying for anyone who hasn't read it. (Last good/pretty good/decent novel by Er Gen as far as I'm concerned.)
     
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    Read the title as webtoons, thought you were talking about pornhwas
     
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    pass1478 I'm in Despair!

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    In webnovels, NTR is very one-sided, unlike in western books or other more professional stories. It's much more difficult to be understanding and tolerant towards NTR if the author places emphasis on the betrayal and sadness. And as someone already pointed out, webnovels are more often than not self-inserts and wish fulfilments, so people are obviously gonna be pissed if the main character gets cucked.
     
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