Discussion Does manhua/manhwa go under "Manga Discussion"?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by AMissingLinguist, May 8, 2021.

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How many marshmallows can you fit inside your mouth?

  1. 0(Small mouth.)

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  2. 1(Don't want to choke.)

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  3. 2(Are you even trying?)

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  4. 3(Hwow awm I dwooing?)

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  5. 4(Mmh Mhwph Hhph Mhwph?)

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  6. 5(...)

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  7. 6(Careful to not choke.)

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  8. 7(Doing great!)

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  9. 8(Expert at stuffing my mouth.)

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  10. 9(Nearly the best.)

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  11. 10+(I'm a champ!)

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  1. AMissingLinguist

    AMissingLinguist [Not Here][Blank Sect][Nuffian #N]

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    Also, does punctuation go inside or outside quotations around a "word?"

    I mean, there are many people who say that "punctuation goes inside the quotation marks."
    Then, I see a whole bunch of people use punctuation "like this".
    Is it a case-by-case basis?

    Also, also, thread title. I couldn't decide whether to make a thread about a webtoon (It's called True Beauty) on General Chat or Manga Discussion, so I decided to consult NUF itself.

    What about comics as well? Do they go under Manga Discussion? I enjoy xkcd and Safely Endangered, but I don't know if those fit under Manga Discussion.
     
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    Anra7777 All powerful magic grammar hamster queen pirate.

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    Punctuation goes inside, but even I sometimes forget this rule.
     
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    Ruyue Well-Known Member

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    "Do commas and periods go inside or outside quotation marks? Commas and periods always go inside the quotation marks in American English; dashes, colons, and semicolons almost always go outside the quotation marks; question marks and exclamation marks sometimes go inside, sometimes stay outside." -grammarly
     
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    Anra7777 All powerful magic grammar hamster queen pirate.

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    ...Why are you quoting grammarly to me? Find another source, and then I might believe it. —Grammar Hamsters Against Grammarly
     
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    Thanks for answering one of my questions! Whew. Now I can rest easy knowing that how I've been writing was correct most of the time. :blobsalute:
     
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    Manhwas and manhuas all go in Manga Discussion. Webtoons go there too.
     
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    Thanks for answering my main question! :aww:

    Also, what about comics? :cookie:
     
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    AliceShiki 『Ms. Tree』『Magical Girl of Love and Justice』

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    They can go there too~

    Basically, anything related to discussing stories told by a graphic medium should go there~
     
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    "...commas and periods that directly follow quotations go inside the closing quotation marks” (88). Thus, in the following sentence, the comma is placed after taught:

    “You’ve got to be carefully taught,” wrote Oscar Hammerstein II.

    A bit of explanation why:
    "This placement is traditional in the United States. William Strunk, Jr., and E. B. White, writing in 1959, noted that “[t]ypographical usage dictates the comma be inside the marks, though logically it seems not to belong there” (36). In other words, in the predigital era, when fonts were fixed-width, setting a period or comma outside the quotation marks would have created an unsightly gap:"
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    **Figure 1: Look at that ungodly space**
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    **Figure 2: The power of modern fonts get rid of that ungodly space, so really it shouldn't be much of an issue to put it outside now.*
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    In British style, spacing issues are less pronounced because it uses single quotation marks instead of double, and commas and periods are placed outside the quotation marks:

    ‘You’ve got to be carefully taught’, wrote Oscar Hammerstein II.

    -MLA Style

    TLDR: America puts commas and periods inside the quotation marks since they are double and would create a large space. Was originally used in the past, because fonts were generally larger, so space would have been larger. For british, they only use one line in the quotation mark so they could put the comma and period outside of the quotation marks since there is no longer an ungodly large space.

    I think this is the right take. Idk. maybe my tldr is wrong

    Oh also Very Very Important:
    Don't put commas and periods inside the quotation marks when a parenthetical reference follows.

    Mullen, criticizing the apparent inaction, writes, "Donahue's policy was to do nothing" (24).

    -Purdue University
     
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    Lissi 『Queen of Lissidom』『Holy Chibi』『Western Birdy』『⚓』

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    Huh? They should always go inside? I thought it depended on whether it was a quote or not.

    Like,
    "fancy" isn't a quote (in the sense that someone other than me said it- these quotations are more used for definitions or sarcasm), so I always put the period outside.

    On the other hand, if it was a quote, I'd put it inside:
    Is this actually wrong? :blob_teary:
     
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    Im thinking that expressing sarcasm via " " is a modern revelation and so the rules of grammar have probably not changed to encompass so i think you would still place a period or a comma inside the quoatation marks.