DotA Mafia Game #27

Discussion in 'Community Games' started by justabot, Mar 10, 2022.

  1. Clumsy Soul

    Clumsy Soul Existing

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    Hmm, will get to it after re-reading her posts again then.
     
  2. Isolated0371

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    With the catch that it had to be from when I was inactive.
    Which wasn’t planned, btw. I didn’t intentionally go inactive
     
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  3. Lissi

    Lissi 『Queen of Lissidom』『Holy Chibi』『Western Birdy』『⚓』

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    I'd agree with the similar stances point, as that's what I felt too, but wasn't the last-minute ISOs from that same game? Where Lemon was town...?

    Like wouldn't that conversely show that "while the last minute ISOs look and feel terribly sus, they might be NAI"?
     
  4. Tilgarial

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    Can you give me one example, and maybe some other stuff that slot did that you consider AI?
     
  5. Tilgarial

    Tilgarial [Chaos Tiger] [Paradox] [Life]

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    *waits for lissi to catch up*
     
  6. Lissi

    Lissi 『Queen of Lissidom』『Holy Chibi』『Western Birdy』『⚓』

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    Why does this strike you as wolfy?
    Which part of this looked wolfy to you? Saying Tilgarial's a wolf if he lives to D3 (I agree with the wolfy read here lol) or sussing Iso's PR?
     
  7. Lissi

    Lissi 『Queen of Lissidom』『Holy Chibi』『Western Birdy』『⚓』

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    Not sure if you've answered this yet, but if your vanilla vs PR math for Iso's claim made him seem townier to you (iirc that was your conclusion?), could you explain how exactly you got those numbers (specifically for the vanilla part) and why that makes you feel he's likelier to be town?
     
  8. Isolated0371

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    ^that is a good example (and I also think that slot is the one I townread earlier?)

    Decora’s response is also fitting, however I’m less likely to town read for that because it was indirectly being prompted. Gun to head, still town though.

    As for something else Decora did that’s AI? I’d have to check an iso:
     
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    Ironically, Lissi is mentioning my PR claim
     
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  10. Lissi

    Lissi 『Queen of Lissidom』『Holy Chibi』『Western Birdy』『⚓』

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    Wait what are you asking?

    Are you comparing your self-reflection post to Glass's gut reads post?
     
  11. Tilgarial

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    The PR math: 4 PR's in game, 1 is mafia. 25%
    The vanilla math: 10 vanillas, 3 are mafia. 33%

    And no, my conclusion was that I wasn't quite sure if he's telling the truth. I was just in the mood for a little bit of math, so I put numbers to it
     
  12. Isolated0371

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    Obligatory not super confident in Lissi read
    brb hopefully before EoD
     
  13. Nagashiro

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    I'm comparing their assessment of Glass's post to their assessment of my post, what of it?
     
  14. Lissi

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    Wait, which reasons are these again?

    The starting PSA (which btw is not the strongest reason, and any reads I make over actual reads/discussion would take way more precedence, tbh. But I don't think I've made any so far about Lemon?) and Psyx saying towny banality (?)

    Are there any others?
     
  15. Clumsy Soul

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    Done backreading yet again. >.>
    And DA did said that this was their first bot game so it fits right when they were checking stuff like self vote but I don't know their reason for choosing Mr gentleman randomly who haven't even spoken anything.
    @Lissi Did you know that this was DA first bot game? Shouldn't that explains a bit why they self voted?
     
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  16. Lissi

    Lissi 『Queen of Lissidom』『Holy Chibi』『Western Birdy』『⚓』

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    Tbf, I think a lot of people noticed and just chose to wait and see what he'll do next before talking

    Also, wasn't it Clumsy who pointed it out first? (and Decora just agreed that it was a bit sus?) Does that change anything
     
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  17. Lissi

    Lissi 『Queen of Lissidom』『Holy Chibi』『Western Birdy』『⚓』

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    (also is this because of Joker :blobrofl:)
     
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  18. Tilgarial

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    But as I said earlier, it's kinda layers of WIFOM.
    Just ignoring it and reading other things off of him is easier, tbh
     
  19. Lissi

    Lissi 『Queen of Lissidom』『Holy Chibi』『Western Birdy』『⚓』

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    I think I can agree with the "not wanting to ISO highly active players" mentality, as ISOs kinda suck and they take forever (even if I always end up going back to them, rip me lol)

    But I don't think it's as simple as just 'pushing out the weakest link'

    I think that a lot of the times, it happens in cases where more time is needed for posts to be made for analysis, and with the guarantee that inactives are not going to be making themselves any more readable as time goes on, it's better to take the chance and hope they're mafia, especially if they've done 0 town-indicative things (or just 0 things in general)

    And occasionally, you get those times where everyone who is active feels so incredibly towny you have to conclude that the inactives (if they are enough) must contain all the mafia lol

    And at the very least... the actives are indeed analyzing something even if they don't touch the ISOs of other actives (otherwise they are literally just spamming post count and I feel that they would get voted out just as easily in that case anyways), so I feel that it's not hypocrisy in that sense
     
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  20. Tilgarial

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    Tbh, I remember mostly reading lemon posts and thinking they sounded townie.
    I would have gone looking for which ones, but I also remember posts from you two (lissi and psyx) afterwards about saying it's townie too, so my brain just went "yupp, same read here"