LCD Everyone Else is a Returnee

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  1. jacobpaige

    jacobpaige Well-Known Member

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    Its saying that he got thousands in the most recent battle, but the most recent battle was against nothing but dragons.
     
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    StuffedDuck Stuffed with Fluff

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    “Yeah, not only does the cost go down massively thanks to the Dimensional Traveller effects…… I have loads of magic stones at hand.”
    “…….”

    Yu IlHan replied while letting Liera peek at the contents of the inventory. For a moment, Liera almost mistook that there was another world in his inventory. There was that much mana crammed inside it!”

    “Quite a lot, no?”
    “Yeah……”

    Combining the magic stones he had gathered during the past three years on Earth, and the magic stones Yumir gave him, the number of magic stone he had acquired with Vanguard in total seemed to be insignificant. This was another side of the abnormal development speed of Earth.

    “Well, it’s nothing surprising when you think about it has given birth to a 6th class.”
    “I can see your legs trembling.”

    Liera had not seen so many magic stones in one place even when she was an angel. What if Yu IlHan really started to go to war with the higher existences? She became very afraid.
     
  3. mabangin

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    Teraka had thousands of dragons accompanying him so if what he said pertained to 4th class magic stones from the dragons, it would have been from there.

    Okay here's the thing: expelling humans from Earth might have been the most logical solution from the Heavenly Army's point of view, but Yu IlHan didn't share HA's point of view. Human's may be rational beings, but we're also a species that picks favorite colors, which is pretty irrational to me. The point is, humans don't base their decisions on logic alone, you need to take their emotions in count.

    Now you might think that Yu IlHan shouldn't care if a minor number of people if most of the humans are saved. But you would have forgotten one thing: they were babies man. BABIES. I don't know if there's a male equivalent for maternal instinct, but when a plan involves leaving all the babies in the world to die, the shit WILL hit the fan. IlHan might not care if a whole country dies if they did something that made them deserve it. He doesn't care if a whole island is destroyed because the people there weren't capable of defending it. In IlHan's thought process, they could have avoided getting killed if they did something different, he even made vanguard so that people could better defend themselves. But leaving babies alone to die? They don't have parents or guardians to protect them (at least, none that IlHan knew of, bless YuMir's dragon heart). For IlHan, he would never want to join a faction that would put babies in danger's way.

    TL;DR Doesn't matter what HA thinks, it's IlHan's decision to hate them. And babies.
     
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  4. Someguy666

    Someguy666 MILF Sect Leader

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    Looking at all these factions and their actions, I'm beginning to think they're just different pyramid scheme organizations fighting over sheep. The whole protect lower existances thing is just PR bullshit.
     
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  5. jacobpaige

    jacobpaige Well-Known Member

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    What's your point? The quote had nothing to do with the hundreds of thousands of stones he acquired on Earth. It strictly pertained to his gains since arriving on Dareu. And the only fourth classes he's fought there were dragons.
    There were slightly more than 3 thousand dragond judging by the number of corpses he had. Unless more than half of them dropped stones, he wouldn't have gotten thousands of stones from that, which would mean that dragons were practically guaranteed to drop stones, which directly contradicts his last trip to Dareu.
     
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    they don't have to actually have stones inside them to have picked them up from their kills. most of the decent level stones are too rare for people to rely upon, so collecting the 4th grade stones, which would even be equal to the rank of creatures the dragons would have been fighting in order to power up to their current level so quickly, given that ilhan had utterly wrecked their entire species from dareu, it's not too big a stretch that they were just carrying 'em around, for when they themselves might use them for their own skill/class quests. if they've all got 10+ each, that's quite a lot of stones.
     
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    StuffedDuck Stuffed with Fluff

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    It is a translations error ... me thinks :)

    "thousands of 4th class magic stones." should be "4th class dragon 사체(carcass/bodies)"
     
  8. jacobpaige

    jacobpaige Well-Known Member

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    Ah, that would make a lot more sense.
     
  9. Chamber

    Chamber Mecha Translator

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    Yup, that was a translation mistake. Sorry about that. Will change it now.
    @StuffedDuck @jacobpaige

    Actually, no, editor-san decided to randomly edit that part....

    [​IMG]
     
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    StuffedDuck Stuffed with Fluff

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    I would blame the sponsors for that one! :LOL:
     
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    Just continuing the novel but forgot the weapon rank, can anyone enlighten me?

    Rare-Unique-Legend?
     
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    rare->unique->legend->epic->chaos->demigod->god

    God being the strongest class of equipment/artifacts seen so far in the series with the MC having created a number of God class artifacts so far.
     
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    LuftRauser *insert something in here*

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    God->???->Chuck Norris
     
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    Well they DID imply they expect Yu IlHan to die from old age and not from fighting the monsters on earth. Also whether they expect IlHan to kill ALL the monsters or not doesn't really matter when they could have migrated the people away easily through other means which brings us to your second point.

    Remember how IlHan's friends and family on earth went around for over a year trying to clear the magic circles? That's how much time they had to migrate. Remember how they setup that auction with basically every world they can open a vortex to in about a month? Also remember that ONLY the children (and IlHan at the time) actually needed to use the vortices since literally everyone else could return to the world they're connected to whenever they want. Not being able to return is a moot point since that is the case right now anyway.

    If the elves didn't have IlHan they most likely would have been wiped out as a side effect of the transcender factions fighting. What comes after IlHan decides to break it off with HA remains to be seen but their chances are at least better than without him.
     
  15. moridin84

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    I really like that the author didn't suddenly go "oh Speria was secretly a bad person this whole time" to make it easier for IllHan to fight her.


    And in regards to the angels doing what they did to Earth. Well... the angels themselves think that it was bad so I'm going to take their opinion on the matter.
     
  16. Sablecaballero

    Sablecaballero Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I really can't understand why the angels did that; I mean, the portals were open at that time, they could have made a world-wide announcement and say "Earth is going to become a battleground between higher existences so get out of here if you don't want to die" or "you are going to be sent to the world you were before, but we can't send your babies so leave through a portal before that", they could even talk about the formations and the curse as if they had nothing to do with that, so humanity is more willing to leave... but they did nothing like that, which in my book means they don't care a bit about them and were ok with killing millions of innocents.
    Its not like before, when people died because angels couldn't help, this time they were directly involved and IlHan is totally right in seeing them as enemies.
     
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  17. Jinnai.l

    Jinnai.l The Jerkaiser, Ruler of 108th dimension,Jinny

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    Point there. But you forgot that as a organisation with omniscience the result does not speak...Seriously they don't. Let me list here

    1) Non-existence Background check and communication monitoring.
    Feyta turn traitor could be totally avoided if they just monitor Earth carefully. Moreover, how come did the omniscience organisation with time-stopping artifact fail to intercept communication between their agent, who is guarding high profile VIP, and two other Higher existance faction. Not only did they left their house unchecked they fail to check their enemy transmission.

    And speaking of which...who let a newbie guard high profile target? Where the hell is their top men?

    2) Policy Reflection
    Why the hell did everyone keep defecting from us...

    ANS: we don't know and don't care let keep doing what we are doing.

    Anyone please explain where is the internal affair and a complaint office. Did heaven have a wage cut or some equivalent which lead to mass deserting. You know every angel left equal information leak...if this is warfare and I am their general I would already start hiding in a cupboard.

    3)Power of WHAT?
    So the universe (record) agree that love and will-power can topple higher existence in over-there head. Not only that the so call record god would sometime give free donation in term of power boost and blessing.

    Brilliant...let pair over angel together and sent to battle. Promote emotion and practice. List every record god in history and work out how do we gain the blessing. LOVE IS AWESOME!!!

    Not...What again? Love is discourage in heaven and accepting other god aside from the man upstairs is highly frown upon. Who the hell made that rule.

    4) Genre Blindness
    You are an organisation who issue miracle on a regular basis but then there is this human.

    The human who take on opponent few league above him and clean up the world you fail to protect single-highhandedly...twice. Oh he also sold a legendary grade artifact at seemingly discount price. His made equipment are better than most your army gear at a staggering cheap price and he made your trap better than your trap smith. Moreover, he have potential for growth...and no other higher existence have a prior contact aside from one angle who is visibly attach to him. And his potential for growth is staggering plus even your god could not find him under concealment. Not only that he also rule over a dragon, elves and wolfkin...he also know magic engineering, a subject even the highest rank in your army didn't. This human also regard you organisation as incapable failure and he is not an intolerable jackass and very reasonable. Oh and he is pretty loyal to his world.

    I don't call him a human. I call him a natural resource. The moment Speira filed report I will have him. Heaven's Law can be bend for hell of it. One sixth class angel getting married early is not worth the price of losing this guy to other faction (the scale from his gear alone will break hold over several higher world). Worse if there is a possibility, even one percent, of him becoming a higher existence on his own is a recipe for disaster. So get him in your faction first. Give him an honorary or advisorial seat. Invite him into a board meeting. Lend him your facility and help do his paperwork. Anything to reverse his original opinion and hide him with all your invisibility cloak because you know he is the next big thing and it will be bad if your nemesis got a dig on this gold.

    Well...no. WHAT? Who the hell trade one world for this guy's final loyalty? YOU BLOODY IDIOT. NOW WE ARE ALL HIS SHIT LIST!

    5) Counter Intelligence did not exist/over inflate ego
    Fail to notice that one of your most loyal rising star is conflict about your action and might not be able to stomach letting thousand children to die. Fail to realize that your 6th class angel would willing to become lower existence for love. Think that they won't be stabbed in the back after allying with the guy whose world they literally abandon and even have the nerve to recruit him . Think that as a higher existence they cannot be harm by the lower one despite every evidence shown on the contrary. Fooling themselves into believing they are sinless despite sacrificing children (one of which is the so of the man they are trying to recruit). Think that there god is infallable despite failing to detect that one guy. Believing that they are justice. Failing to prevent DDA from interfering with world despite knowing they are coming. Fail to communicate and warn about instant deportation...likely result in death of hundred thousands children who could be save

    Wow...even the Marines in One Piece have more backbone (say what you will about Sengoku but incapable is not the adjective used to describe him) and we are wondering why Il Han have a negative opinion. If Whitebeard is a higher existence, Han would already be his third commander and his 'son'.
     
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  18. palaraya

    palaraya It's Super Effective

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    7th class is Battalion Commander. what's higher than Battalion Commander?
     
  19. Raidou99

    Raidou99 [⚔️Berserk Healer's⚔️] [Paul Zero]

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    While we all ponder on subject like magic stones, liera, erta, yu ilhan, etc. Don't you guys think we are forgetting a really important thing?
    Poor koukouseidesu(translator of everyone else is a returnee) is probably dying right now. Having to post 2-3 chapters per day can be really hard for someone who usually posted 3-4 chapters per week!
    RIP koukouseidesu!
    Well all those donations can atleast work as a healer!
    U reap what u sow!!!!!
     
  20. Masukure

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    Probably just the leader of the faction. Liera believes 7th class is just below god, so since the battalion leaders are 7th class, only the leader of DDA should be above them.