Discussion Filial Piety

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Cynge42, Mar 12, 2020.

  1. Cynge42

    Cynge42 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2018
    Messages:
    162
    Likes Received:
    81
    Reading List:
    Link
    I haven't seen this incident so far, except for in Chu Wang Fei. I was told CWF had some real stuff and some fluff.

    Question: In Ancient China were families censored, or have a mark against them if they didn't have filial piety?

    I know the culture is to respect family and take care of the elderly. I honestly thought it was a choice and not because they would have marks against them.

    Follow up: If it is true that it was required, when did it change and become a choice?
     
    asriu likes this.
  2. canaria23

    canaria23 『  』

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2015
    Messages:
    9,498
    Likes Received:
    10,979
    Reading List:
    Link
    They like get exiled and stuff, they like won't be able to get proper jobs. Even if the said elder doesn't deserve filial piety.
     
    Cynge42 likes this.
  3. MangoGuy

    MangoGuy Rambling Mango

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2016
    Messages:
    7,625
    Likes Received:
    8,697
    Reading List:
    Link
    It is very very strict. Even today, it is only slightly relaxed.
     
    Cynge42 likes this.
  4. UnknownSaint171

    UnknownSaint171 To Something Sounds Cooler

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2016
    Messages:
    1,792
    Likes Received:
    785
    Reading List:
    Link
    Yeah.. Sometimes they take it to extreme levels. If you marry a chinese person, you have to take care of their parents or that person will just take your baby and run off with the parents. I really feel bad for the fella
     
    Cynge42 likes this.
  5. asriu

    asriu fu~ fu~ fu~

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2016
    Messages:
    18,554
    Likes Received:
    18,154
    Reading List:
    Link
    for now there was news article about china government passed law people must take care their parents on respond so many people tend not care about their parents on old age~ dunno how accurate that news~
     
    Cynge42 likes this.
  6. hexfirwe

    hexfirwe Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2017
    Messages:
    12
    Likes Received:
    14
    Reading List:
    Link
    Most of the filial piety stuff comes from Confucius. To oversimplify it Confucius thought that the easiest way to govern people was to use peer pressure to make them follow a moral code.
    Works pretty well if you agree with a moral code somebody else came up with in an entirely different era.
     
  7. Robbini

    Robbini Logical? Illogical? Random? Or Just Unique?

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2015
    Messages:
    2,887
    Likes Received:
    1,749
    Reading List:
    Link
    Filial piety in some degree is probably pretty common just about everywhere. But the way it's shown in some chinese novels is probably taking it as extreme as it can go without being members in some sects.

    But if they don't show any, it'll atleast be a social blacklist, and while not officially endorsed, those can ruin just about anyone.

    On a cynical note, you could argue that as a country simply put they have no ability to get enough social workers to care for all their elderly / don't care enough about them, so they instead made it a 'family' thing which leaves all the costs, duties and responsibilities with the families.
     
    Cynge42, mir and imK like this.
  8. Dizzcity

    Dizzcity Watching generations of fans rise and fall away

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2015
    Messages:
    916
    Likes Received:
    894
    Reading List:
    Link
    MadraRua, Cynge42, imK and 2 others like this.
  9. Cynge42

    Cynge42 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2018
    Messages:
    162
    Likes Received:
    81
    Reading List:
    Link
    This clears up a lot, but then adds so many questions.. I just can't form them right now.

    Thank you all for answering and helping me understand!
     
  10. Kadmos1

    Kadmos1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2017
    Messages:
    2,982
    Likes Received:
    1,538
    Reading List:
    Link
    Filial piety is important sure. However, respecting one's mother-in-law is another story.
     
    Cynge42 likes this.