Good Intentions but Naive(Pirate manga site going legal)

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  1. Wujigege

    Wujigege *Christian*SIMP*Comedian

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    https://mrcomics.com

    Since wuxiaworld cannot license from Qidian, they certainly cant since they are much smaller.
    There were not scanlators, so I wonder where they will source reliable translators?
    Venture capital?
    I doubt it
     
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    My favorite pirate... :blobsob:
    I was only referring to Jack Sparrow, honest. :blobpeek:
     
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    Depends, RoyalRoadl doesn't totally count but it seems they're trying to go down the road of getting indie comic writers to create original content on their website [in case you didn't know, RRL started off as translators of Legendary Moonlight Sculptor]. Might be hard to do since Webtoon [owned by Naver] is pretty big in that market. Not to mention there are the like of Renta and a couple of other sites that have managed to get a modicum of success doing something kinda similar. Lastly Fakku made it work based on their huge following before switching over to licensing and by a look at their statistics they do have a couple of million visits on their site so it miiiight be possible. Might also fail though so...
     
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    Wujigege *Christian*SIMP*Comedian

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    Who is Fakku?
    Naver is big and just like viki and vlive, they are crowdsourcing their translators from fans/readers so they dont pay a dime.
    Paying translators wont scale up well in comparison
     
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    Heimdallr [I-don't-know-what-to-write-here]

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    When i see some people trying to go legal, i always remember what my prof from university says:

    "you don't change it if it works"
     
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    WinByDying I can count to four

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    Those guys weren't naive at all. They even tried to paint themselves as victims, had a good laugh reading it at the end. They simply didn't want to go the illegal/grey route anymore, and use this as a publicity stunt for their new platform. As for what specific reasons they had going legal, there could be plenty, but conscience probably is not one of them.

    Maybe their careers in the long term, maybe they started encountering legal trouble, ...
     
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    Heimdallr [I-don't-know-what-to-write-here]

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    A hentai site that went legal they even own hh now
     
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    Wujigege *Christian*SIMP*Comedian

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    I see. I knew I had heard the name here recently.

    Piracy isnt working though with people quitting being content creators because making a living is too difficult
     
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    Those times when fakku was still free :'(
     
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    I remember those good day, but now we have to move on
     
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    Wujigege *Christian*SIMP*Comedian

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    It was never free and had to shutdown due to lack of money and resulted to a kickstarter campaign
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fakku
     
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    Westeller Smokin' Sexy Style!! Staff Member

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    That's not what that page says at all.

    Fakku was a hentai manga aggregator. It was completely free. However, it gradually began to sell content alongside free content. It continued to enlarge its catalogue of paid content until it had enough to just do away with the aggregator part of itself. A gradual transition, that did not involve any shut downs (that I can recall) or kickstarters meant to revive the site. The kickstarter listed on that page was to translate something. Consider it an alternative to self-invested venture capital.

    ...

    Heh. I'd imagine "MR Comics" would have more success with a "gradual transition" like that, than going cold turkey.
     
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    Ai chan Queen of Yuri, Devourer of Traps, Thrusted Witch

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    It's not the size of the tool, it's the usefulness of the tool. Wuxiaworld failed to license from Qidian because their plans goes counter to Qidian's plans. Due to Wuxiaworld's ability to raise millions to buy the license to the titles, Qidian believed that there is a market outside of China. And so while Wuxiaworld made plans to go legit, Qidian made plans to take everything for themselves. Only now, Qidian realized that they've taken the wrong path and that they're losing money and brand confidence.

    The success of a business venture is not dependent on the size. It mostly depends on whether or not you can persuade the other side that if they work with you, they will profit. This often requires extensive research and paperwork, and in most cases, you need to be able to talk to the right people at the right time. If you have a business plan, but you fail to persuade the other side to see the benefit in working with you, it doesn't matter how big your company is, the negotiation will fail.

    Sourcing reliable translators is easy. There are many scanlators who do want to go legit. They need only approach one of them that provided good translation quality. Venture capital is easy to acquire if you have a good business plan. There are angel investors, business loans and venture capitalists who are only too happy to give their money away, provided you can persuade them that it is a winning business. The business may still fail regardless, but it's a risk they know well, which is why you need to be able to be professional and convince them that you're doing all in your power and experience to make it work.
     
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    Wujigege *Christian*SIMP*Comedian

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    It shutdown in 2007.
    It had a lot of costs from donations to survive.
    It wasn't free.
    I would love to know more about its history more than the summary on wikipedia.
    It seems like Crunchyroll but for porn
     
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    Westeller Smokin' Sexy Style!! Staff Member

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    Oh, I see that. It says that happened shortly after its launch, and had nothing to do with the kickstarter. ... Anyway, when people said "free" here, they meant it was an aggregator. The content was free. I don't know about how the site supported itself, in terms of ad revenue, donations, or whatever. But that would have been irrelevant to the average user. Until the content was no longer free.
     
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    Really? I thought you meant Anonymous :hmm:
    :whistle:
     
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    The fuckers that NTR'ed Papa HH's HH like a cum stained violin... and made filters and copyrights an annoying process to search for. They're like the QI of CN to some cultured folks.

    Someday, I'll find those forbidden chapters! Even if previous legendary sites go down, the Internet's perversion shall live on forever in anonymous freedom and beyond!
     
  18. Wujigege

    Wujigege *Christian*SIMP*Comedian

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    Hahaha I read that quote on dialydot but they made up the next day lol
     
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    Really? Impossible, the original creator was distraught and downright saddened with the betrayal.

    Also, the site's videos are broken, and will never return to it's former glory. It was a remarkable site back in the days. RIP HH.
     
  20. Wujigege

    Wujigege *Christian*SIMP*Comedian

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    Well, they made enough money to attempt to go legal but people are too shortsighted.
    I am looking to go legal by adwalling content
    That way it stays free.
    Imagine if you could watch unlimited video ads to earn spirit stones and buy all the chapters that you want.
    Well, thats not really realistic so maybe other options like take surveys to earn spirit stones