Spoiler How to Get My Husband on My Side -남편을 내 편으로 만드는 방법

Poor mc even in past life and in this she suffererd like this

 

Does anyone know at what ch does ML find out about abuse? Any mtl for that part?

 

Personally, I like Ivan (the knight with blonde hair and green eyes) more, I’m simping so hard for him. He has a fun personality, and he’s better looking than the male lead too imo. He has shown much more character in the few panels he’s in, than most male leads in these type of stories. I wish Ivan is the male lead, but we all know only edgelords can be male leads in these type of stories smh…

 

Did MC's brother s*xually assault her ?

 

May I know in which chapter of novel when they witnessed MC being beaten by his brother?

 

Welll anyone like me? I personally dont like ml, she married him, he doesnt like her, fine, but treat her with politeness not cold shoulder and hurt her, she is much much smaller than him so he should know his strength can break her, he has sister, friend who is girl, he should know how to control himself when touching the other people, he doesnt like his wife, fine, but his attitude is so rude to the point i think that it s weird fl love him later on =. =

 

Where did you read the novel?

 

I don't think so... as ruby i think her brother abuse her physically using whip. Her first is with ml.
But it's another case if you think sitting on bro's lap is a form of sexual assault (ep 1)

 

Me too!!!! Please someone could translate this chapter please!!

 

I want to know too please

 

The novel seem so short based on spoiler you guys have provided here. And maybe the manhwa will also be short.

God, please. Give me more MLs that actually has a personality like, cheerful etc,. Even the FL experience abuse from her past and present parents she's always has been a cheerful and always smiling person.

and I kinda hate author-nim in the part where Enzo needs to sacrifice himself to the novels plot. I know its for the plot! but what kind of reaction did the FL feel when enzo died? Did she even grieved the death of enzo? Despite of being a tsun to her as her brother? I like his character a lot than ML. Enzo shows more character originality than ML. He didn't even get enough of screen time just straight boom death.

I wanna know more abt enzo. Its such a waste to let someone like him die a unfortunate death.

 

Spoiler: Quick spoiler from 1-58 chapter to break your fantasy abt ML

She got physic abused from her brother and verbal abuse from her father and other people
She got married to ML under pressure from Royal Family and her father so she tried to win his heart so she can live in the north forever.
Somewhere in this part she begged him to have a sex with her because his father is asking, he agreed but then took back after saw her scar on the back which she explained she has in when playing. So he only slept that night.
She has unknown illness which make her body hurt around twice per year, but her father angry said she only pretended so she is fear of his anger and she hide her pain. One time she nosebleeding in front of ml so he took her home.
There has incident where freya got poisoned and so he pushed fl out to avoided the poisoned blood but as people saw the scene will think he care for freya
After incident everyone thought she is culprit, then Maid harassed her by giving her water mixed with something and she drunk and vomitted, the sister entered her room and pushed her into the wall and cursed something which shocked fl, actually later the sister explained she was angry because fl didnt eat much and gradually like their mother, suisided
Fl later tired and her sickness came up when she went to the temper, she meet monster named popo and blacked out, popo took her to the cave and lives with griffin, in one moment she didnt want to returned so she thought abt lived with monster because they are friendly
-she is missing but only one day after they informed her husband and no escort follow her when she went to temple, actually the cause from her tireness also came from conversations she hurt people badmouth about her. The sister went to bed without caring much abt her whereabout and only know later she went missing.
Ml went all the way to find her and blamed himself for his neglect
-They found her in cave and she run with popo and griffin and jumped into a cave where ice dragon lives, so ice dragon love her and let her stay, unfortunately her husband found out and she threw mushrooms into his face to prevent him hurt dragon and popo and griffin.
-He said sorry and nearly cant stand because he is tired after many days not rest and search for her
-she agreed to returned (i was hoping she run away)
-she was on bed 10 days and he stayed in her bed few days
-he asked and she didnt say anything abt harassment and the sister went for apology for her rude attitude and fl forgive (wtf someone hurt you when you re sick and then say simple sorry, u forgive?????? )
-his attitude to her a bit change but still rude, she cling to him and act like she loves him most and flatter him and try to sleep with him (which i dont understand why)
-cute moment :when he by purpose give her pudding while ivan sister wanna eat, he gave little girl a glare so fl has to eat at the end
-he asked what she wants, she said it is him
-he held her a banquet and his attitude is not really sweet as i hope he will so ==dissapointed
-finally they found new maid under his instruction to prevent someone hold hostility toward her.
-she got people said she is bitch for her rumor abt her relationship with brother, people speak ill to her that she got kidnapped and who know what happend and she poisoned freya bla bla
-someone stepped on her feet and she bleeding a lot.

I spoil this much so u guy can decided to continue read or not but i quit to read because of ml s attitude, it s very rude and fl is so so pethetic, if i was her, i run away with monster and vowed never come back because after she comes back the attitude changed a bit but not much and she still got harassment somehow and she has to kiss his ass as much as she live in this life and accept with the thought he doesnt love her like freya but still wanna sleep with him===make me think wtf =. =
I was trying to look for a moment when ml is really care for her like other novel but i am dissapointed, he is cold as always even he gradually realize he loves her

 

I'm also curious about this one.. anyone who can share more detailed spoilers? and some more fluffy moments between ML and MC? thank you!

 

Spoiler - warning
The sweetest interactions in this novel were between FL and the animals/the dragon, they were so sweet, fluffy and the banter between them makes you feel peaceful after enduring a marathon of drama between FL and the other human characters, especially the impotent ML. (Oh dear sometimes I wish the dragon could shapeshift and transform into a man and could marry the FL like a Russian film I watched a few years ago). With other novels, the MLs are usually strong, or are groveling in order to gain FL forgiveness, while the ML in this novel is just so ...careless and indifferent, it will make you feel frustrated up until 2/3 of the novel. On the other hand, it does feel like it's the FL who had to work her ass off to make her husband side with her, lmao it's so ironic and pathetic at the same time.

 

I m waiting for someone who think the same as me, the best scenes is with popo and griffin and dragon. Fl indeed is pethetic like she run away from her family and work all her power to charm a man. Luckily he doesnt have feeling for his childhood friend, if he did, whAt she gonna do??? Her plan is full of flaw

 

Novel updates

 

I thought about it, and overall I found mc's family's setting and the real life renaissance Italian Borgia family really similar.
Pope Alexander VI(Rodrigo de Borgia) was a former head of the Italian catholic church. The Borgia family back then held strong political importance at the time. And, if I recall correctly, his daughter Lucrezia Borgia(in this case mc) was noted for her almost lethal beauty and remarkable intelligence. She served as a pawn for the Borgia's and became a political tool by getting married off to many men and leaving each in a miserable state every time(a classic example of a femme fatale). The pope also had a notable son amongst all his other children, Cesare(i.e. mc's brother who also shares the same name), who even happened to be involved in infamous, incestuous scandals with Lucrezia. He also had many illegitimate children.
In real life, the Borgias were highly skilled in assassinating and getting rid of bishops, cardinals and opposing families with various forms of poison--whereas in the novel, og mc poisoned ml's sister.
There is a lot of juicy scandal surrounding the Borgias(especially Lucrezia) so drama in this novel wouldn't even be surprising.
If this novel is following tracks of real life, then there's hope mc would marry two other men, each after one another.
Edit: Didn't notice someone already posted about the Borgias. Anyway I typed "there's hope" because I was typing this then when the male lead was being kind of a douche and I had to hold myself back from punching a hole into my monitor.
But well, I like him now I guess.

 

**DISCUSSION**

(I recognize this will be an unpopular opinion) Imo Izek is not that bad to get on my sh*tlist compared to, let’s say, Karlois from “There were times I wished you were dead”. Karlois used his parents’ death and MC’s parentage to abuse MC emotionally and publicly humiliate her at every turn. The Pope and Omerta Duchy are at odds w/ one another but Izek didn’t demonize her though he was wary of her - which is totally understandable if you’re marrying a stranger from an opposing faction

My POV:

Spoiler: “My opinion on Izek and how people understand abuse”

Izek is not my favorite ML, as in, if I were to describe him I would say he’s an obnoxious dude w/ low EQ, but I wouldn’t consider him trash. I know that authors use tragic backstories to excuse ML’s sh*t behavior but in his case, I think it’s understandable considering that the death of a parent can be significantly traumatizing. He could’ve turned out worse yet his behavior feels like a human w/ flaws rather than an extremely, sadistic a-hole who takes every opportunity to make jabbing remarks about MC’s personality or make assumptions about their life as a Pope’s daughter under the excuse that their experience is much more traumatizing than anyone else’s, like the ML from What It Means To Be You.

What sucks in this situation is that his abrasive, rude, dismissive demeanor is particularly harmful to MC who’s very emotionally fragile, but if someone is not familiar w/ how exteme emotional / physical abuse affects people’s behavior, then they wouldn’t know what the person has specifically gone through, though they may have suspicions, like Izek when he raises his hand and MC assumes he will hit her or the whip incident w/ the horses where she emotionally regresses and Izek’s reactions are like ???? Why is she like that??? Did her brother do or the Pope do something to her???? As a reader I wanted to slap his face but I also think that many people would react the same way as him if they were in his position.

To be fair, it may be obvious to the readers that MC’s personality is a product of abuse but I think it’s “obvious” b/c it’s hindsight bias, we know her thoughts and her background whereas the characters don’t and only observes that MC acts weird and seems to be hiding something. Izek and Ellenia had a rather peaceful childhood, besides the death of the Duchess, and wasn’t exposed to that kind of cruelty.

When I think of real life situations, there have been many instances where I thought someone acted in a way that was different from others, only to be told later of a personal issue in their life that makes them act that way, but I wouldn’t have known b/c I didn’t live their life or experience their specific trauma. I also experienced unpleasant things when I was younger which affected how I responded to specific external stimuli, but I found that some people didn’t understand, even if they were exceedingly empathetic, if their upbringing was significantly different to mine. I’ve been on both sides of the situation and can empathize w/ both lines of thought.

Spoiler: “About the death of ML’s mother”

It’s also uncomfortable w/ how the trauma of his mother’s death is just brushed off. People react to grief differently and not to make it too personal, but from a firsthand experience, the death of a family member at a very young age had a significant impact on my personality and there was a period where I was a lil edgy, sh*thead for a while…. (my dark history)…. and Izek saw his mother’s body hanging on that willow tree as a child. How awful is that? There are points where Izek acts a certain way and I can identify that I acted similarly to him (though not as bad??? I would like to think that????) and a large part of that was b/c I was unfamiliar w/ expressing emotions in a healthy way and anger was a primary emotion for a long time. However, I was able to recover faster than Izek b/c:

1) professional help
2) being socialized as a woman as opposed to a man, it’s more acceptable to outwardly display or express negative emotions
3) it’s allowable to show weakness when a person is not in the position of authority - Izek is a well known paladin on top of being a successor to a Duchy so he doesn’t necessarily have that luxury

The author did include at some points details about how his mother’s death changed his capacity to express his thoughts or emotions, be considerate of others, and empathize w/ someone’s emotions - I think his characterization makes sense. IMO, his behavior appropriately fits his background w/o being too excessive. He is quite harsh to MC b/c he’s an emotionally stunted child but he is not manipulative, he does not feel entitled to make MC prioritize his emotions over hers, and does not force her to forgive or accept him when he does something that upsets her.

With that said, does someone’s experience excuse how they act towards people? No. Experiencing death can be distressing but that doesn’t mean it’s ok to be an ahole, though it is understandable why someone would behave that way. On the other hand, it should also be considered that even though Izek’s personality is annoying and not preferred, he is not selectively mean or hateful to MC compared to how he treats everyone else, he is like that with everyone.

this is just my opinion, I’m not trying to fight anyone or tell anyone they’re wrong b/c I can see where people are coming from and I agree that many factors make him unlikeable. I also think everyone’s opinions are valid b/c our perception of characters / people are affected by our upbringing and environment, so though I disagree that he’s total sh**, I’m not going to invalidate anyone for how they feel towards ML.

My personal belief is that before hating on a character/ IRL person, it’s important to humanize them first. There are still certain MLs I can’t get past even though they’re not exactly the worst of the worst (Currently ilenoah from Elegant Sea of Savagery for me). Some behavior just hits on a personal level even after considering multiple perspectives.

 

Same!!! Like, I can understand that the ML is pissed about the political marriage, it’s not a fun situation for anyone, but that doesn’t make it okay for him to treat her like that. At least treat them with respect, especially when you see that they aren’t harmful or disrespecting you. I also was really uncomfortable with the premise that although MC was suffering, she still had to act so childish, bend over backwards for his attention, and constantly looking the other way or making up excuses when she is being mistreated. Her begging for him to have sex with her…really? Did the author have to make her so pitiful?
I instantly loved Ivan. Even though he knew the situation between the two families and the rumors, he still kept an open mind and urged others to do the same. So basically, common decency. I was also so upset when MC’s brother Enzo died. She literally said he was the only one in her family that treated her well, and he had to die.
This one wasn’t for me. I did feel bad that the MC went thru so much but it got to the point that it was a bit uncomfortable with how much she was suffering and left so helpless and pitiful.

 

literally commenting here again begging for more spoilers in this spoiler thread literally about anything after chapter 86...

yea sure ML is a tsundere, nothing new in the realm of novels and manhwas)) still interested in the pair and the story and any more spoilers cause it got me, a reader, wanting more. (And please for the love of god, it's fiction... if you dropped it, and it's not for you, good job but some of us actually want to know more and are allowed to... )