LCD Kumo Desu ga, Nani ka?

Discussion in 'Latest Chapter Discussion' started by TUSF, Oct 22, 2015.

  1. Overlord2019

    Overlord2019 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2019
    Messages:
    91
    Likes Received:
    118
    Reading List:
    Link
    Because the price tag for deleting skills is HUGE. Sensei deleted the "this is my dream and this world is intended only for me" psycho's skills as a punishment for trying to murder Shun, and nearly destroyed her own soul in the process. The only silver lining is that doing this also purged Potimas's little puppeteer parasite, allowing Shiro to put a seal on Sensei's soul so he can't just plant a new one and take over.

    Under normal circumstances, Shiro can't do squat to someone that Potimas has infected.
     
  2. KhayDesu

    KhayDesu ❀Rᴇᴀᴅιɴԍ Eɴтнusιᴀsт❀ | ★ᴅᴇsu~★ | ✿Loquᴀcιous✿『☕』

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2021
    Messages:
    257
    Likes Received:
    861
    Reading List:
    Link
    When someone asks you to give up your bank account would you agree?

    deleting skills is actually a simple matter there is a reset skill that anyone can access and it has zero cost.

    The one you mention is a different matter Sensei used a loophole outside the system to delete Hugo's skills

    besides in a world akin to The Middle Ages if you told people that the world is ending and you need to give up your skills, would you believe that person?
     
    Kphone89 likes this.
  3. Tarrian

    Tarrian Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2018
    Messages:
    131
    Likes Received:
    145
    Reading List:
    Link
    We live in a world where science and rationality are supposedly ascendant, and yet some still believe that the earth is flat, that the last year was a hoax, that vaccines are government conspiracies, etc, etc, etc... imagine how much worse it would be in an age of superstition.

    Complicating the matter in the setting is that while people have a strong tie to religion and can be led to obey their edicts, the religions disagree as to the nature of skills and what to do with them. If the Goddess faith was reigning supreme, the world might well be able to get rid of a good portion of skills through sacrifice and many of the world's woes could be, if not solved, mitigated to a degree.

    Of course there'd always be those who would never sacrifice skills as they're a source of power, they'd rather sit until they're personally on fire while the world burns, thinking 'this is fine'.
     
    KhayDesu likes this.
  4. KhayDesu

    KhayDesu ❀Rᴇᴀᴅιɴԍ Eɴтнusιᴀsт❀ | ★ᴅᴇsu~★ | ✿Loquᴀcιous✿『☕』

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2021
    Messages:
    257
    Likes Received:
    861
    Reading List:
    Link
    well said, in the Middle Ages in our world The Church has unspeakable power it can denounce kings and label them heretics giving other countries a reason to attack it. In a world where a Deity like entity actually exist the fanaticism is on a another level. Take the UFO incident for example Dustin rallied 10,000 elite soldiers (meatshields) which are more than willing to get slaughtered just because their leader said so. (many of them died happy lol)
     
  5. sjmcc13

    sjmcc13 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2017
    Messages:
    1,631
    Likes Received:
    3,575
    Reading List:
    Link
    That is not the only way to remove skills tough, IIRC another way is mentioned back in one of the Shun side stories, from before he met up with everyone.
     
    KhayDesu likes this.
  6. NZPIEFACE

    NZPIEFACE Leecher

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2016
    Messages:
    6,201
    Likes Received:
    5,927
    Reading List:
    Link
    Really? I thought it was super rare.

    He did resurrect a bunch of high-level dragons during this energy crisis.
     
  7. Arha

    Arha Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2019
    Messages:
    227
    Likes Received:
    166
    Reading List:
    Link
    Using that one skill that sacrifices your other skills still means you are cutting bits of your soul off. Do we even know if you can be selective with it? If not, then it's the same thing that Shiro is trying to do. If you can be selective it might be difficult to tell how many skills you can safely remove.

    Yeh but he's doing that using his own energy and divine area plus the shield Shiro gave him.
     
  8. NZPIEFACE

    NZPIEFACE Leecher

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2016
    Messages:
    6,201
    Likes Received:
    5,927
    Reading List:
    Link
    I don't think he has enough energy for that, even counting for divine area.
     
  9. Arha

    Arha Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2019
    Messages:
    227
    Likes Received:
    166
    Reading List:
    Link
    That's why he burned through that huge shield Shiro gave him. You're not supposed to be able to do that without killing yourself.
     
  10. Wannabe-shutin

    Wannabe-shutin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2016
    Messages:
    615
    Likes Received:
    610
    Reading List:
    Link
    But it's done safely over a span of several days. People in the Goddess religion have also been preaching to use that skill, some of them having used it themselves.
    (Btw, since the DW religion tells its followers to level up a lot in order to hear god's voice more often, and leveling is easier when it's low, why didn't some of them use it?)

    And the system focuses on combat, so a lot of professions would hardly be affected by resetting their stats, right? Moreover, it might even erase Taboo along with the rest; the possibility alone should convince a lot of people.
     
    KhayDesu likes this.
  11. NZPIEFACE

    NZPIEFACE Leecher

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2016
    Messages:
    6,201
    Likes Received:
    5,927
    Reading List:
    Link
    I don't think it's possible to remove Taboo. Otherwise literally everyone ever wouldn't need to worry about the mental affects of it.
     
  12. Arha

    Arha Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2019
    Messages:
    227
    Likes Received:
    166
    Reading List:
    Link
    People who get Taboo usually snap and have other priorities than getting rid of it. Like murder and suicide. Honestly I was pretty disappointed by the low key response everyone had. I was expecting wayyyy more.
     
    KhayDesu likes this.
  13. KhayDesu

    KhayDesu ❀Rᴇᴀᴅιɴԍ Eɴтнusιᴀsт❀ | ★ᴅᴇsu~★ | ✿Loquᴀcιous✿『☕』

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2021
    Messages:
    257
    Likes Received:
    861
    Reading List:
    Link
    it was mentioned in the LN desu~~

    agreed desu~! i was expecting Mass Hysteria and panick like its the end of the world

    Yes one of the dragons who can see the soul said that if Shun didn't have that shield over his soul he'd be dust already
     
    Last edited: May 20, 2021
    Kphone89 likes this.
  14. Tea leaves

    Tea leaves Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2018
    Messages:
    184
    Likes Received:
    36
    Reading List:
    Link
    I think regenerating new souls will take a very long time but it is still within the realm of possibility but I don't think an Administrator can suddenly be created. I don't think anyone can be like Shiro that can transcend to become an administrator. If Shiro won both Gyurie and Sariel will still be alive and less than 20% soul is still surviving and its still possible for a great future. If Gyurie and Dustin win Sariel is dead and Gyurie will be the core of the system until he dies. Only an administrator can stop the system and the only one left will be Shiro and I believed Shiro will leaved immediately after the battle. I don't see a future for this. A world without an administrator is bound for destruction.
     
  15. Latifa

    Latifa Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2020
    Messages:
    12
    Likes Received:
    5
    Reading List:
    Link
    I think if Ariel died, Shiro would give up saving the world and will leave to kill D and will tell Gyurie to not interfere to what she will do and she won't interfere to what Gyurie would do. I also think that the core of the system is not that easy to change since it is not "interesting" to D and Gyurie would realize that what Shiro is doing is the best possible way to save the world.
     
  16. Kphone89

    Kphone89 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2018
    Messages:
    28
    Likes Received:
    25
    Reading List:
    Link
    • Shiro should rescue Sariel even if Ariel dies. Ariel was already planning to die to free Sariel so not much would change on that front.
    • Shiro won't kill D and she knows it's impossible. D wrote the "how to kill Gods" book and gave it to Shiro when she ascended. There's also the fact that Shiro is terrified of D. It'll be interesting to see what D pushes onto Shiro after the conclusion of the other world.
      • 2nd in command of the underworld (who gets all 1st in commands work forced on her)
      • Gaming friend
      • Pet spider
      • ???
      • .. Ariel might even be revived to be kept as a cook. (very unlikely; see Meido as D's Maid)
    • Sadly, I feel Gyurie will never change and that means he'll kill himself before he lets Shiro do what she wants. If he was going to change, he's had hundreds(? thousands?) of years to do it.

    I have a feeling that if Dustin wins, the reincarnators are in for hell.
    .. and if he's dumb enough to try and touch Earth, Meido and/or D will step in and complete erase the other world.
     
  17. lekxman22

    lekxman22 New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2020
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    4
    Reading List:
    Link
    I dont think Dustin will do anything to reincarnators except if he could brainwash them to be new devotes or sweet talking.
    Gyurie wont have good ending in anyway bcs either way he wants himself to be sacrificed. U see the truth behind Shiro's And gyuries fight is that when they are fighting they are realising divine energy. If it reaches certain ammount everyone could be saved but oh well lets wait and see.
    Had to re-edit this didnt want to post another one.
    P.S Guys do u think we need to wait for Vol 12 of LN for WN to re-start? or it dropped?
     
    Last edited: May 21, 2021
  18. Arha

    Arha Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2019
    Messages:
    227
    Likes Received:
    166
    Reading List:
    Link
    Shiro might leave if Ariel dies, but unless circumstances absolutely forced it I don't think she would challenge D. She doesn't willingly get into fights she's positive she can't win. I think circumstances probably will end up forcing her to confront D, but Ariel's death alone probably isn't enough. Though given that Shiraori is severely emotionally stunted and repressed she might react in surprising ways. Girl is messed up.
     
  19. Tea leaves

    Tea leaves Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2018
    Messages:
    184
    Likes Received:
    36
    Reading List:
    Link
    When Shiro accidentally saw D's true power she describe it as if she described herself as only dust on the entire universe. Shiro painfully knows that no matter how to strong she becomes in the future she will never reach D.
     
    Kphone89 likes this.
  20. Nepagear

    Nepagear Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2017
    Messages:
    71
    Likes Received:
    30
    Reading List:
    Link
    afterall she's still actually thankful for D by giving her a tiny speck of soul
     
    Kphone89 likes this.