Spoiler Latest Chapter Discussion Thread for Death Mage Raws

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  1. heiro001

    heiro001 Well-Known Member

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    He got it in 269 (last chapter). The Demon King's Muscle, Sweat Glands, Crystals and Cnidocyte combined to make the Demon King's Flesh, and then in 270 Densuke listed it in the Unique skill column. I don't really get it either. :blobunsure:
     
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  2. silla

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    iirc van sama got 魔王の肉体 (demon king's body) after he got demon king shadow, and all fragments fused to demon king body.
     
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    The only reason it's kept separate from other fragments is because it serves some unique purpose, like the Demon King's Evil Eye. But then again, aren't all fragments kind of unique? What exactly makes the flesh so different? :hmm:
     
  4. heiro001

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    Ah, it was saying they were integrating into an existing skill instead of integrating to make one. :notlikeblob:

    Okay, just went back to look, He did indeed get it in 223, after he absorbed the Demon King's Shadow that turned into Guduranis (well, Guduranis as a Van copy, but you get it). The shadow was like Guduranis' actual soul / ghost, so when Van convinced it it was part of him, that basically made him Guduranis' body, so he got the "Demon King's Flesh" skill out of it. Apologies.
     
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    By the way, for those interested, I made a list of Available jobs before:

    【Dark King Mage】【Fallen Warrior】【Insect Nin】【Destruction Guider】【Dungeon Master】【Mixed Guider(?)】【Void King Mage】【Curser(?)】【Daemon Ruler】【Creator】【Pale Rider】【Tartarus】【Aramitama】【Dark Gunner(?)】【Wand Creator】【Soul Warrior】【God Destroyer(?)】【Qliphoth】【Dark Beast User(?)】【Spirit Tuner】【Artisan: Transformation Equipment】【Shadow User】【Balor】【Apollyon】【Demogorgon】【Soul Eater】【God Eater】【Nergal】【Rakshasa King】【Satan】【Shi You】【Divine Spirit Mage】【Uroboros】
    Translation for first 4 are from Ch 152 tls.
    "Dead Spirit Mage" option was dropped and replaced with "Divine Spirit Mage" option.
    A lot of the job options are basically alternatives to "Demon King", haha.
     
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  6. hillo315

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    That's because the gods of Earth and Origin gave Van their blessings. It gives Van all possible options from all their mythologies.
     
  7. Nakakure

    Nakakure #GP2019

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    Please update the status
     
  8. heiro001

    heiro001 Well-Known Member

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    Think some of kari-no-sugata's suggestions for the (?) listings may clarify a bit:
    【混導士】 = Chaos Guider (like 混乱)
    【蝕呪士】 = Eclipse Shaman (蝕 of 蝕帝/Eclipse Emperor)
    【蚩尤 】: Chi You (this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiyou)
     
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    "Chaos" there does kinda make sense.
    I somehow missed the "Eclipse" in that name. "Shamen" is a bit eh, tho.
    I went with "Shi You" cause that's the Japanese pronunciation. I looked him up before putting that. Dunno why I went with the Japanese version, but I did. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    Guess there's some third options for people who cast curses too: Eclipse Warlock? Eclipse Curse User? Eclipse Witch? :blobmelt:
     
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    I don't remember exactly when it was. Basically once he got enough demon king fragments they combine, basically cleaning up the list on his status. 'Nikutai' can mean flesh or body, and is basically the combination of all his fragments.
     
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    It was after the fight with Birkyne/Hihi. As somebody said earlier, Van got the shadow and tentacles from Hihi, then all the fragments merged to become the unique skill Demon King's Body. I personally would prefer body as opposed to flesh since the skill itself would refer to the collection of Demon King fragments. Anyway, after that, every fragment he gained would join the said unique skill like in the latest raws.
     
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    From what I remember, the "Shadow of the Demon King" (body) carries part of the soul of the "Demon King Guduranis", something like residual thoughts or the subconscious. After Vandalieu absorbed the "Shadow of the Demon King" (body), the "Shadow of the Demon King" (soul) attempted to "invade" the soul of Vandalieu by a "blind spot", thus finding the copy of it, which he gained in "Trial of Zakkart" and merging. In the end, the copy of Vandalieu took the place of the "Shadow of the Demon King" (soul) and erasing the thoughts of the "Demon King Guduranis".
    For the "Demon King's Body" skill, he gained when he switched from job to [Demon King], thus replacing his body parts with "Demon King Fragments", so when he changed jobs, he had a bone sound raging coming from Vandalieu's body. For example, now Vandalieu's body muscles are the same as he "got" from the "evil god," and that happens to all of the "Demon King Fragments" he gets.
     
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  14. Nakakure

    Nakakure #GP2019

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    Wow the creation champion surely can defeat demon king ( in every possible way.) with enough time.
     
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    FussyBadger Well-Known Member

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    I'll update the front page after I read the chapter and get a new cord for my laptop. It's a pain trying to read it on mobile for me so it might take a couple of days for me to get a cord.

    Also sorry for the late reply
     
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  16. Nakakure

    Nakakure #GP2019

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    It's alright FUSSYBADGER-SAMA
     
  17. heiro001

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    Probably don't even need to read it at this point, most of the info is already in the last two pages.:blobtongue: It's a bummer to lose access to your computer though, hope you can get a replacement soon! :blobpeek:
     
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    FussyBadger Well-Known Member

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    It should be this weekend and I'm trying not to read the posts from the past few pages. It's hard but I definitely appreciate the summaries
     
  19. Wannabe-shutin

    Wannabe-shutin Well-Known Member

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    I decided to respond here since this answer might qualify for the spoiler section:
    The gods of earth don't really work together since they have different personalities. To come to a decision will take a while and i am not sure if they could predict Rodcort's action to that extent nor act in such a quick manner. Did Rodcorte even prepare a seperate ability for Amamiya or was it fused with van's?
    If not then he was not supposed to be there and we can conclude that he might have not been on the ship. Nonetheless he has memories, making it quite the mystery.
    My hypothesis:
    Maybe he is the personification of the life Van always wished for on earth? With this patchwork soul of his a part of it, representing this part, might have split off, giving birth to Amamiya; Any holes in this story will then be closed by this new existence. (I put too much thought into this)

    While writing this I imagined Van becoming a god like the one from earth, but with all the bodies being lead by Van's original personality; his soul is a hive already after all.
     
  20. Mesaphrom

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    The one you translated as "Satan" should be "Shaitan", it is an actual word in arabic that refer to a group of demon, meaning "ones who bring despair". Satan has been used many times already and the author write is as "seitan".
     
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