Spoiler Latest Chapter Discussion Thread for Death Mage Raws

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  1. DyansoN

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    That's really stupid even for Alda himself.
     
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    Is alda going to absorb guds soul into him?
     
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    So Alda has decided to go down the same path of Rodcorte. Alda is seriously the biggest hypocrite of them all. Got angry and stabbed and imprisoned Rodcorte for using Guduranis's soul against Van, but now that he has the other pieces Alda thinks it's okay for himself to use Gudranis against Van.

    Also it's hilarious that Alda is so blind to his own circumstance that he doesn't even realize that the only gods on his side now are devout followers of his. All other gods that can think for themselves have fled and are staying in there own divine realms or have joined Vida's faction. Even more if the two factions went to war and Alda could even win in the war, the population would have become extremely reduce and couldn't complete with the ever expanding evil lands. The gorge between the remaining gods would be massive that it would make the split between Vida and Alda look like child's play. Top it off if they could destroy Vida's reincarnation cycle their would be a large mass of souls just floating around and there is no proof that Rodcorte would even help Alda and recover those souls. Knowing Rodcorte as soon as he is not a god of Alda's world, which means destroy all his believers Van and Vida's faction, he would abandon the world as fast as he could especially since Alda's already attacked him once. In summary Rodcorte is so blind and stubborn that he is leading his world to destruction.
     
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    Alda has been leading the world to destruction since 100k years ago. Van’s appearance just accelerated the process.
     
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    I wonder if alda pride get hurt by Van. Van can eat and eternally kill demon king g while he still mortal at first time, still demi-god now. alda one of great god can only seal 2 demon king soul.
     
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    That might be part of it. Van in his 13/14 years of life has done more for the world than Alda has in 100k. All the evil gods that Vida’s faction had sealed have been destroyed. Botin was freed. He destroyed the evil god vampires that were sabotaging society in both Amid and Orbaume and their god. He’s now destroyed the resurrected demon king and prevented him from ever truly coming back again. There’s also now the Yggdrasil thing.

    The fact that Alda and his Gods are delusional enough to think that killing Van will “return the gods to their sanity” is just laughable. That and his subordinates still thinking of him as the lord of gods rather than just being one of a group.
     
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    To true, the demon king army fragments were slowly winning, since they could grow stronger faster due to the stagnation Alda caused.
     
  8. Sparteh

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    It makes one wonder, what will happen if Alda does that and then meets Van... Or what those morons on his side (aka Heinz) will do when they learn about it from someone else (lets be honest, they are to stupid to realize it themselves)
     
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    They could have done better if they actually tried. That big devil nest the ghouls lived in at the start of the story. It was just sitting there slowly spreading because no one cared enough to go there yet when the noble and army finally had a reason they purified it in about a year and were going to make a huge future return from all the farmland. They could have done that at any time and they just never did.

    Alda could have told people to clear out Devil nests. He never did. He was so focused on “bigger” things like the evil god army remnants or the new Vida races that he never gave any consideration to something so simple and would be easy to manage until they were already all over the place and full of monsters and dungeons spawning. At that point they couldn’t be removed any more.
     
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    Rodcorte want to cut the loose and run after mess thing up but Van make him god of Lamda so he chose extreme method to run.
     
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    About Alda....:hmm:
    He maybe can completely control the DK fragments, His state of mind is completely chaos....It may be cause his action more violence or in dark mood:blobdevil: (imagine play Total War : Warhammer 2 and pick Sword of Kraine:blobowoevil: which reduces public order and cause bad economy but that all)
    His people are completely fanatical so they will support Alda without any questions (Thank Heinz for brainwashed them:blobowoevil_horns:).
    The war may tell about how Van try to avoid frontal battle or how to bleed Alda dry:blobnom:
     
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    Alda sucks let's all bash the idiot also rodidiot you slithering snake you suck too.

    Ok in all honestly I'm just perplexed at Alda he had 100,000 years to fix the world even with a very basic functional methods most things should be at Aldas expectations by now.like dude he had more or less everything he could ask for to bring things back to the "golden years", religious control,gods for the elements, no one to say no to his ideas and time a lot of it.
    Van with not even 20 years got this far Alda could do all the things he did in same time considering his resources but he doesn't like technology or whatever 10,000 years is more than plenty but whatever.
     
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    Hypothetically speaking for a bit, assuming that Alda was able to pull a Khepri and managed kill the gestalt that is Van's mortal body, what the hell does he think will happen exactly? Wouldn't Van just become a full god? One that he must likely will be unable to Stake since his soul is all over the place? I mean, he doesn't know that, but he does know that Van can somehow break his Stakes.
     
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    I hate defending Alda but some of his early limitations. There was only a few thousand people and then that was further split because a number of those were Vida followers and went with her. Then he fought with Vida and broke things up even more. Then he now had to manage both the light and life elements and find a bunch of decent people to fill god slots to manage all the deficiencies. The evil gods were basically still hanging around messing things up whenever they had a chance. Listening to Bellwood when Bellwood has no fucking clue about what to actually do. Farmaun and a bunch of the fire gods abandoning. All the giant devil nests spreading, thankfully for Alda, Vida side was keeping the ones on the dark continent in check. Though it pays to remember that there are actually sky and sea devil nests too.
     
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    Side Ch 69: "The Servants of the Gods"

    Izumi, Aran and Kouya have been watching the whole letter exchange from Rodcorte's divine realm, and are very happy to see that everything has ended peacefully. Honestly they were thinking Asagi got incredibly lucky that Van and Mari were willing to amuse him. If they had killed him, since Asagi already considers Van his friend, there was an extremely high chance he would have been guided by Van as a spirit and then Van could very well have turned him into a golem and left him somewhere for a millennium or two just to get away from him. :blobfearful: Alda's angel meanwhile is still not paying attention to them at all and focusing entirely on monitoring Rodcorte, having no idea Izumi, Aran and Kouya just watched Mari and Pluto basically revealing major national secrets from Vida's camp, let alone that Asagi's group of reincarnators are more or less trying cooperate with Van if at all possible. :blobsmirk:

    Mao and Gotouta meanwhile... have barely been paying attention to what's going on pretty much at all on their island nation paradise. :blob_coffee: Instead they've opened a shop, which kinda stands out since there's not a lot of dwarf shop owners or Elf shop keepers around. I mean sure, a lot's been happening lately: the revival and defeat of Guduranis, the birth of the Amid Holy Kingdom, the creation of the Ark Mountain Range, it's been quite a lot of goings on in Ban Gaia. :blobpopcorn: However, since their island is over a month away from Ban Gaia by boat, news is slow, and a lot of it won't matter much to the islanders. In a month or so there'll be probably merchants telling the story of "Dark Avalon" and Guduranis's revival in the tavern... though most people will probably be more interested in what goods they brought from their latest voyage. And a month or so after that, probably talk about Van moving a whole mountain range... though people on the island will probably be more concerned with Fazon cutting itself off from the rest of the Orbaume (and thus the merchants there can no longer trade with them if they want to trade with the rest of Orbaume).

    That's not to say there haven't been a few hero candidates sailing off to Ban Gaia from this island nation. And Alda does know about Mao and Gotouta. But it's not worth his time and attention to try to force these two reincarnators to get involved or assassinate them or whatever. Not when they're not even particularly battle focused (they've got an item box and farsight cheats), they're not allied with Van at all, and all they seem to be doing is running a shop. Also, Alda doesn't want to get on the bad side of Izumi, Aran and Kouya, since they're the only ones he can depend on to keep Rodcorte's transmigration circle running right now. :sweating_profusely: Van's also unlikely to be interested in them either, as Quattro and Sam let him transport far more than Mao's [Noah] in less time, and his Demon King fragments can give him similar abilities to Gotouta's [Super Sense], and there's not a large population of Vida races nor any major persecution of them, especially when compared to say Amid. So looks like Mao and Gotouta will be able to continue to enjoy their quiet island life. :blobmelt:

    Over in Amid and Fazon meanwhile, Alda faction gods are dropping their trial dungeons all over the place. In fact, it's quickly grown so commonplace that most people don't care about them anymore. "Those are for the hero candidates and chosen, so not my problem." type stuff. In fact, it feels like at this point the gods might be freaking out more than the people. They're in total tunnel vision mode at this point in fact, thinking if they can just defeat Vandalieu, the world will be saved. Everything will go back to normal! Botin, Peria, Ricklent and Zuruwarn will totally come to their senses! Vida too, she'll see she was wrong and step down from her position as a high god! :facepalm: To be fair they were all Alda believers who ascended to godhood over the past 100,000 years, so it's not like they understand what's going on here. They think Alda's the god of all gods here... when in fact he is just the one of two very lucky gods who managed to not get seriously wounded during the Demon King War and then launched a sneak attack on his own sister... and now all his other surviving brothers and sisters are back and not happy with what he's been doing. :blobexpressionless: I mean really, if they could just take a couple steps back here: do you really think you're going to make Botin, Peria, Ricklent and Zuruwarn not be angry at you for launching attacks on Vida and her believers for the past 100,000 years by launching another attack on Vida and her believers? :blobunsure:

    Also this still won't fix the dungeons and demons nests all over the place. Or the fact Alda stabbed Rodcorte in the face with a stake and thus you can't do anything about Vida's transmigration circle now. Looking like you're going to have to kill all the people without ranks now too if you really want to get rid of it that badly Alda! Oh, also your whole transmigration circle is going to be borked eventually without Rodcorte or an actual reincarnation god there to run it, which killing Van will not get you. Killing Van also won't do anything about the fact gods from other worlds will eventually show up and potentially seal you all and kill the entire population of Lambda to free Rodcorte so their worlds' part of his transmigration circle run right again. :blobconfused: Everyone starting to catch on why Bashas and company, or Elk and her faction, completely abandoned Alda now? There's literally no one left in Alda's faction but the meatheads like Yuepon who refuse to listen to anyone. "All for the sake of justice." am I right guys? :facepalm:

    That was Alda by the way. His insanity from that last side chapter we spent some time with him, and he decided he didn't care what his siblings thought, or how many people over how many millions of years had to suffer, he wasn't changing his mind... yeah, it's only getting worse. :blobastonished: Sure, Bellwood, wanting to take no responsibility or action himself anymore, is increasingly matching his wavelength to Heinz, increasing the time of [Heroic God Advent]. Sure, lots of hero candidates are getting stronger from the various trial dungeons that his faction gods have set up. But it's still not enough! :blobcat_hyper: So Alda's actually considering replicating what Fitun did with Hajime and [Marionette] and straight up stealing believers bodies. :sweating_profusely:Alda would generally never even think of doing this because without using weird tricks like Fitun slowly taking over Hajime, or using Hajime's [Marionette] cheat to do it, it exhausts a huge amount of energy for a god to actually wipe a mortal's consciousness clean so they can then use their empty shell. And if anyone found out about it, given most of these people will likely be suffering permanent brain damage (personality and memories have to be basically wiped to do this), Alda's faction would lose believers... whose faith they, again, need to maintain the various attributes. But given Alda thinks the world he dreams of will be destroyed forever if Van isn't killed, apparently he's having the Pope look into that for him.

    But you know what, that's still not stupid and self-destructive enough. So Alda's also come up with an even more insane plan: Alda's standing right in front of the remaining parts of Guduranis's soul that he and Rodcorte had in their possession. :blobneutral: And as Alda reaches for one of them... we cut. :blobfearful:

    ...To Pope Eileek, who has gathered a bunch of fervent believers. The kind that would murder their own spouses and children if Alda asked for it. Well, anyway, some of them are discussing how Eileek has given orders from the gods that selected individuals will be "reincarnated". (read: chained, carefully tortured till there's nothing left of them... but their body is totally intact... and then used for "reincarnating" various gods, just like Alda wanted.:blobastonished:) Apparently the selected are also the assassins sent after Schneider while he was releasing slaves and stealing demon king fragments throughout Amid? As they mention their numbers have been somewhat reduced due to the Storm of Tyranny. But not enough to affect the selection criteria the gods provided. Honestly funny for me, who thought Bellwood was going to turn Heinz into his meat puppet all those volumes ago, to see Alda turning all sorts of people other than Heinz into meat puppets for his gods.

    On the less (though also not not) insane side of things, Arthur is hanging out with his patron goddess, Bashas.

    Arthur: "Bashas-sama! Congratulations on your descent!" :blob_grin:
    Bashas: "T, thanks, Arthur. I, I'm, glad, you're this h, happy about it too...! I, I don't think I've ever been this happy before, thank you so much for being my believer!" :blobsob:

    Goddess of Rainclouds everyone. Can't help but cry up a storm. :blobsmirk: Anyway, Bashas has had some self-esteem issues these last few centuries since she started out as a hero who helped people avoid floods and hurricanes, and now lots of people think she's just a god of ill omens who turns nice days into rainy ones. :blobsad: So it's very nice having Arthur be genuinely grateful for her protection and for helping him and his other party members make all sorts of new friends and become the heroes they are today. :blobmelt: Apparently Bashas was the one who gave her protection first, with the other two gods who defected with her blessing Arthur's sister and his best friend afterwards. Miriam is there too, so Bashas also starts crying and thanking her profusely, and telling Miriam "On my name as the [Goddess of Rainclouds], from now on... for the rest of my life, I will always... love you!" :blobsob: Apparently this makes Miriam think that Bashas and Arthur are very similar. So I guess we know what Arthur's confession to Miriam when they started dating was now too.:blobrofl:

    Also Bashas would like to ask if she can join Miriam... in singing and dancing as an idol.

    Miriam: "Of course you can! ...Eh?" :blobfrowning:

    Next chapter's on August 4th.
     
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    Xacuel Good points I forget about that but still the state of things when Van come to labhda had more or less been like that for thousands of years the resource limitations had likely mostly gone away by the 50k year mark,through what we see now Alda could have done more way more but he had to be pushed so your point stands.
    Ineffective inefficient Alda wasting believers prayers like taxes.
     
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    So just like i thought,that Alda.
    He's going to use Gudu soul piece,and with this we can tell that Alda is the most arrogant,dumbass antagonist in this serries
     
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    I honestly thought Alda would keep to his standards at least a little bit. Was thinking one of his underling gods would snap and use them instead.
     
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    Well what we can do..we talk about Alda here.
    Just think Alda as arrogant rich child who doesn't like to lose,and will do anything neither it bad or good to win.
     
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    Let's put it to a vote. Should we rename Alda to Kouki?
     
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