Message Count in Novel Pickup Requests

You put tons of effort into every post? Scrutinize each one?

Why doesn't your post history reflect that at all? Exaggerate much?

 

Yes, I'm dramatic that way.

 

Here's the problem with the idea that it will make the posts there more geniune:

It has already been disabled for months. No one cares.

What ya see is what ya get. The subforum isn't going to change one way or the other.

You can't farm nuffies unless your post is over a certain length. "+1" won't get you any. You can't farm message count there, either, because, as I said, what are you going to do? Go through and "+1" the first fifty threads in the subforum, one after another? Talk about putting in the effort for little return, dang.

People do not go to Novel Pickup Requests to farm. They go to post, browse and support pickup requests. They don't even care, in fact, that their "+1" will not be counted for anything or gain them any imaginary points whatsoever. ... Which is exactly the reason it should count. Because people posting in that subforum are legitimately participating in the forums with zero incentive beyond their own interest. Hell, it might be the purest section of the entire forums.

 

Don't quite agree with the no farm assessment (if it can be abused, it will be abused), but either way, I don't think we should incentivize such behavior. Threads shouldn't even be bumped for at least a week to give all requests a semblance of fairness. It would be rewarding those who disregard rules and those who think their request is more important than others.

Ps. Imaginary points is the basis of reddit. Let's not dismiss them as unimportant.

 

'What if' should not be the basis for any kind of decision, much less one you make that affects other people. People are either abusing the subforum for Message Count or they aren't. ... But, sure. Let's go down that route. ... What if, then, people were abusing Novel Pickup Requests for Message Count. ... How would they do that, y'think? Would they go through each individual thread in the subforum tacking an additional "+1" to the end of them? One thread at a time, page by page?

... Well, I doubt it. It's too much work for too little reward.

But, even if they do, that's clearly spam, it'd be cleaned up and they'd be warned. The end.

Do we need to discount the entire subforum because someone 'might' be bored enough to do that?

... Or maybe you think they'd do it differently. Maybe someone would +1 their thread over and over again to keep it on top?

... Newsflash. They can't.

Turns out we have rules for the subforum, and they have to wait a week before they decide to bump their thread. And then a week again after that. ... So if the problem is someone continously bumping their thread, there's already a solution: delete it and warn them. Ban them if you have to. ... But discounting the entire subforum because they were breaking the rules? What?

Maybe we should just discount every subforum in which people frequently break rules.

That'd show 'em!

...

Is there something else? You think two or three people are going to team up to alternate "+1" over and over again in a thread? That'd be spam and they'd be punished accordingly, too. ... You think they're going to cleverly write actual sentences in alteration? Well, damn, they could do that in any subforum they wanted to.

No.. I don't see any way they *could* abuse the subforum for Message Count without breaking the rules or just plain spamming.

But maybe this isn't even about abuse to begin with.

Maybe this is about "+1" posts not meriting those imaginary internet points, and denying it to them with abuse as a flippin' excuse.

 

Working harder, not smarter.

 

No it isn't. Disabling Message Count in the subforum does not stop someone from bumping their thread against the rules. It does not stop people from spamming. It does not stop people from doing anything. No. You still have to do just as much work. You still have to do your damn job and moderate the subforum.

This is not and has never been about preventing abuse. This is about the arbitrary decision that "+1" posts are lazy, low effort spam that you don't believe should "count." ... That's all. The end. Abuse? Working smarter? Cut the crap.

 

I get what you're saying West, but quite frankly you're wrong. There's no more point in me continuing this. You know where I stand.

 

Ya can give them copypasta if you want.

"This novel sounds pretty cool. I'd love to read it. Please translate it."

There. Now they can all copy that and paste it over and over again instead of "+1."

Because, y'know, that's what +1 means in the first place. What'cha expect, really?