LCD Mother of Learning

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  1. Wireath

    Wireath Well-Known Member

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    Zorian barely knew any spells starting out, along with a only couple of shaping exercises. If he could get to Archmage levels within the time he had, then of course Jornak would be too, especially with Zach's help in the beginning. He had more time, and probably got help form Qi and the Cult too. Not to mention, his morals didn't prevent him from outright stealing knowledge w/ mind magic like Zorian.

    @OrdinaryUser -- Don't forget the danger he was in. That could have did a big number on how he turned out. So yeah, It's more how he entered the loop.

    For some reason, I thought he was pseudo-soul bound to Zach; not sure why, but thought I read it in the last chapter. -- Though, I wonder if he could have done something similar to what shifters did, and took some pieces of Zach's soul to shift into.
    The likeliest case would be that he went to Qi about it, and he helped him break it for help w/ the invasion and such on the outside.
     
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    Yes, looks like the largest bottleneck is that the spells/research is not shared/restricted.
    I'm failing to highlight the difference between Zorian and Jornak. Zorian had aspirations to be a mage and he was studying really hard. Jornak, while he apparently had some mage talent, he was not actively involved in magic. Wards in his house and crude mental defenses imply that he was somewhat familiar with magic to protect his privacy (the wards could have been set up by 3rd party anyway).
    So an example that person with very little magic potential (most likely he would have worked as mage as it was much better paid job, or just was not able to attend college like Z&Z could) like Jornak became somewhat capable mage means that if you hoarded enough knowledge you can train your own considerable mage forces - there are just too many talents undeveloped.

    That's the weirdest part. According the interaction between RR and QI when Zorian and aranea fucked up invasion plans, Jornak was not familiar with him prior loop. And there's a great quest to get QI involved voluntary (a lot of prerequisites/information to be know, soul awareness to be present for interaction with marker). Somehow it shows that the Zorian involvement in loop was caused by a great chance. However Jornak's involvement is based on some great chance/randomness as well. Author may or may not explain it properly, but for Jornak to get modified temporary marker with a startup Zach needs huge amount of stars to be aligned properly for it to happen.


    I've looked again at the chapter and some more details can explain what happened on some chapters previously:
    When they tried to take some shortcuts on soul awareness ( or learn soul perception for Zach), the loop restarted. Looks like it was triggered by contract.

    Also the scorched earth tactics is plausible explanation on cataclysm. I was thinking that it was caused by backslash when the huge summoning/whatever ritual was interrupted, but the scorched earth triggers make a lot of sense as well.
    Cataclysm was mentioned in authors site - https://motheroflearninguniverse.wordpress.com/ in the article about history of continent.
     
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    heroeric Well-Known Member

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    Do we have any details of what exactly was the Catacysm
     
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    Bright_Lucky_Star [Previously Known as OrdinaryUser] The Blessed One

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    The Cataclysm:

    Much like the Silence of the Gods, the Cataclysm is a giant mystery surrounded with many questions and few answers. Was the event natural? Or maybe one last punishment from the gods for the seemingly endless civil war that Ikosian Empire was consumed with? Or perhaps the catastrophe was man made, some mad scheme by one of the imperial claimants that spun horribly out of control? It is said that Zuwa, the most powerful of imperial claimants, gathered nearly all of his mages for a grand spell just before the Cataclysm begun. The intent of the spell would forever remain a mystery, as those involved were very tight-lipped about it and the only result of its casting was that everyone involved was found dead in the aftermath. Though others dispute the event ever happened, pointing out documents that say Zuwa got himself and most of his mages killed in a battle with his rival.

    This answer will probably never be known. The records dating from this period are fragmentary and often contradictory, reflecting the utter chaos of the period and the destruction of much of northern Miasina by the encroaching desert.

    With the desert rapidly spreading northward, there was a steady stream of refugees constantly streaming up to the northern coast. There, they inevitably learned they weren’t very welcome. Though Ikosians had a tradition of hospitality, that evaporated quickly under the sheer weight of the incoming exodus wave. The Ikosian civil war only grew hotter, though this time people were not fighting for the right to place their imperial candidate for the throne – they were fighting for food, water and living space.

    And those that couldn’t or wouldn’t fight were fleeing the region. But where to go? The destination for most turned out to be Altazia. Altazia was relatively sparsely populated and undeveloped, and while Ikosian Empire had previously deemed the place unprofitable to colonize, the people who were streaming in now weren’t interested in profitability – they needed a new place to live. They needed it badly.

    And the natives were too weak to stop them.

    https://motheroflearninguniverse.wo...ief-history-of-ikosian-civilization/#comments
    It's likely that Nobody won't answer about time loop mechanism or related information, like 'How many time SG has been used ? How many looper has emerged from SG and changed the world ? Is there any ex looper who present when story take a place ?, those kind of question won't be answered until Nobody revealed himself.

    Some people assume Zuwa who triggered Catalysym or related with it but record and document said he was killed in battle before Catalysym, there's many civil war in Ikosian Empire.
     
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    Oh yeah I kinda forgot to mention about that and I agree that event also changed him
     
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    Can I state again how much Zach is an idiot. I feel like it needs to be stated every time we see Zach in this novel.
     
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    Viola Studio Ghibli Fanboy Mother of Learning Fanboy

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    But he has a heart of Gold.
     
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    Bright_Lucky_Star [Previously Known as OrdinaryUser] The Blessed One

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    Similliar to Naruto but he was not Protagonist in this story so we can't see his train of thought
     
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    How old is Zach anyway?
    I heared he forty ? or twenty sixish ...
     
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    Bright_Lucky_Star [Previously Known as OrdinaryUser] The Blessed One

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    Zach biological age is 15 because he the attend the same class as Zorian, Zorian age is 15. Before Zorian gain marker, Zach has spent decades inside time loop, I will throw random number, maybe 30. After Zorian gained marker they spent more than 8+ years or almost a decade inside time loop does learning and seaching Keys (excluding Balck Room).
     
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    Around 50;
    And as OrdinaryUser said, Zorian started as 15yo, thus Zach should be around there too, so: 15+30+4=49ish
     
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    MoL is a 'western' webnovel, so it's unlikely it'd get any form of Japanese adaptation, unless the author, or the fans, does it. Though, if it gets a big enough following, some companies might try to get it. -- Would probably only happen if the author were to publish it though.
     
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    Bright_Lucky_Star [Previously Known as OrdinaryUser] The Blessed One

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    Guys It's out :aww:
     
  19. Viola

    Viola Studio Ghibli Fanboy Mother of Learning Fanboy

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    Novelty is Back!!!

    YAAAAAAASSSSSSS
     
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    Ddraig Frostfire Dragon|Retired lurker|FFF|Loved by RNG

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    So any news at what chp mol is gonna end?