Mafia Omnifarious FM - TOWN VICTORY

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  1. Isolated0371

    Isolated0371 Well-Known Member

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    Personally, I don’t think that less activity comes into that much of play. I think that if the gambit works, which it seems to have, then leaving PoE is the best way to make that work.

    … If that makes sense? I don’t see any gaps in logic there.
    I don’t think Tsu would have lived long enough to have been not lynched in MYLO/LYLO. That slot is the kind of slot (based on the reads around them) that is heavily susceptible to tinfoil.

    Especially since I’m on Cream bussing right now, I don’t think I’d have left the Tsu slot alone.
    It wasn’t anything solid. It was a combination of being on the Wake wagon (which iirc it would have been very easy for that slot to land on Math there) and something else I’d have to look at my posts to remember.
     
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    Also I don't think it's weird. Vigging town could kinda be disastrous, and especially during the first few days when it was very unclear... if you aren't 99% confident in your reads then it makes sense to holster.
     
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    you said that like 3 mins before eod. The only person who mentioned not wanting to vote tsu anymore was math.
    there is no world where at that point in the day, everyone changes over to triss.
    The only reason I didn't hammer tsu before that point was because I was waiting for people to say their piece.

    Also, you had just admonished math for giving up on the plan, and then you immediately decide to try and pivot away from it?
     
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    I think checking the reasoning for town reading people right now is the way to go.
    Agreed; the townie thing to do isn’t to shoot someone super early because that’s likely to land on town, IMO
     
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    Joker, what’s your ideal plan here? Who would you lynch/shoot and when?
     
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    Joker13 Sleep Deprived Fool[Sheepiest sheep to ever sheep]

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    I think cream said it best here
    so... what?
    I decide to try and bus both of my scumbuddies d2?
     
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    couldn't shoot d1.
    d2 I second guessed myself on shooting tsu because of how half the players decided to kill math instead of wake.
    d3 - The only viable targets were cream, lemon, lissi. And based on how math and tsu acted couldn't bring myself to shoot lemon.
    If you had my ability, which of the three would you have shot?
     
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    what happened to this thought?
     
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    yep, probably iso since you said they were part of your death conditions.
     
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    /shrug

    Tbvh, I was only voting Tsumugi because Cream was, and also because there were only a few hours until EOD and there wasn't time to change anything. I still felt that it was much more likely for Trisscar to be mafia than Tsumugi, especially since I believed Tsumugi's roleclaim. And also because Trisscar wasn't voting Tsumugi, which made me feel really suspicious. And also because Tsumugi's last hour was really towny (Wake's was like that too, but Tsumugi's was even townier).

    IDR what my mental math was exactly but it was something along the lines of, if people start moving I'll vote Trisscar and then Trisscar with 2 votes will be greater than Lemon's 1 vote, and it might have to rand, but I don't want Lemon voted off, or something like that. So I guess my statement was more a result of time running out panic (and thinking that a Lemon wagon might actually form, however inconceivable that may seem in retrospect) + garbled incomplete math + my true thoughts about Tsumugi being townier that Trisscar and the Trisscar > Tsumugi > Lemon ordering.

    Though in the end, as you pointed out, I could see it wasn't going to happen, so I just stayed on Tsumugi.

    This probably isn't the greatest explanation but hopefully it makes sense.
     
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    Lissi 『Queen of Lissidom』『Holy Chibi』『Western Birdy』『⚓』

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    Oh wait if you thought this then why protect me and not Iso?
     
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    why claim something that's so easy to prove false and bus your scumbuddy there, it doesn't make sense.
     
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    *to coordinate and change anything

    I'm still paranoid about flash wagons after the past few days (especially D2), you see.
     
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    I said here:
     
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    Well acc. to Cream's legacy post the PoE should be Lemon/Trisscar

    But I'll reread her post

    I remember Lemon saying to shoot her last night though... would last scum do that lol

    well maybe
     
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    Lissi 『Queen of Lissidom』『Holy Chibi』『Western Birdy』『⚓』

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    Oh... wait no, I mean here:
    (gray = irrelevant)

    But then later you said Trisscar could be W/W with Tsumugi?
     
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    it really only works if there is a 4th mafia in this game, which I think is unlikely tbh,
    in the 3 total mafia world
    cream still has this phase and at least one more after this. If cream votes out town and doesn't instantly die she's outed and just gets voted out next day phase, and honestly I'm just going to shoot cream if she doesn't die for voting out town.

    in the 4 total mafia world, we are currently at 4v2
    she busses her other scumbuddy putting us at 4v1
    there is an nk and I don't shoot putting us at 3v1 for d5
    (ideally I got the heal on n4 here to stay alive and shoot cream during the next day phase if she votes town and doesn't die.)
    and d5 cream outs herself and gets shot by me during the night phase and town wins with 2v0.

    there really is no world where cream can win this if she is scum.
     
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    Not me.

    This is really embarrassing but I thought he was scum and was so dang proud I even made some memes about it over night. :blobtired:

    Let me tag him @MathBlade so that I can wallow in my disgrace lmao

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    y'know unless for some insane reason zone put 5 mafia in this game.
     
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