Sorry post will not be about yuri. "I Was a Sword When I Reincarnated" WN translation was shot down when LN was introduced. "Uchi no Musume no Tame Naraba, Ore Moshikashitara Maou mo Taoserukamo Shirenai" was removed mostly by request of TN holder. In LN they Don't change much....... Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari has different setting and plot arks. "Seirei Gensouki" has different plot arks and ark resolutions. (copyright holder wanted to shutdown that translation) Youjo Senki - there wasn't Serebryakova in WN version for example.
I'm not saying it doesn't happen, don't get me wrong! xD Just saying it's not the norm, generally speaking the LN is a better edited version of the WN, but keeping mostly the same overall. As for the translation being shot down... They totally do have the rights to, as the LN license can work for the WN too AFAIK, but they generally don't do it.
No harms given, but usual trope that LN version varies much from WN. Rights yeah, but they hold rights to shut down current translation of IFV. It's what about mad I am.
May I inquire some thoughts about yuri novels. Like, what do you feel when reading one? Excitement? fascinated? please explain this humble one as he doesn't understand what is so interesting in yuri or yaoi novels. (I mean, i know that these are not regular morals)
As a queer woman, being able to see myself in the media I enjoy is a big factor. I see GL as an unapologetic celebration and space for f/f relationships (although the reality is always more complicated), and it can provide a much needed retreat when I'm tired. Since I'm also dating a woman right now, reading it sometimes reminds me of her, or can help me deal with missing her. I think that both BL and GL provide a sort of freedom and revolution compared to BG romance, though. BG typically has very restrictive gender roles, and the characters in them are required to display a certain type of masculinity or femininity. Because of that, and the tropes attached to the roles, you know what's going to happen in a story for the most part. BL provided relief for me as a woman because it put both love interests on a level playing field and seemed, at least initially, to erase the constant underlying message about how a woman should be. You sometimes can't guess which person is going to be the love interest. Typically both (or all men) get to go on great adventures without being held back with things like "women shouldn't do X". Also, typical romantic tropes go up in the air - if you invoke one, who's going to play what role? And sometimes invoking them can actually call out how silly they are. There's a certain freshness and originality that returns to BL (and GL) where BG fails. However, read enough BL and that dream will fade. There are exceptions that break the rules, and BL can still be enjoyable even when it doesn't, but for the most part gender roles reassert themselves anyway. There are strict seme/uke dynamics that basically demotes one love interest to the "girl", and that character gets handed most if not all of the typically feminine tropes... Also, BL is even more dismissive of and sexist towards what female characters it has. GL has plenty of its own problems, but I find it has all of the benefits that I loved about BL and more. I actually really love seeking out seme/uke dynamics in GL for my own reasons, but it's much rarer, and certainly not the default for GL. Novels in particular offer lots that manga doesn't~! Japanese GL manga typically focuses on schoolgirls, and fantasy is rarer... But you can get GL isekai novels here on NU, as well as Chinese novels that typically have adult women. We have cultivation GL, entertainment circle GL, otome game GL... A whole host of genres! And adding GL to these genres brings me that extra joy of seeing women who would, in these narratives, typically be passive love interests for men rebelling against that expectation. Why become a male cultivator's Nth harem member when you could steal his wife and go have adventures instead? It's double the fun~! (I still read BL, though.)
I personally think it is the taste thingl(like with anything else in life, sorry for such unoriginal, boring and obvious answer). I could go for "yuri is a pure love" and all of this, but when i am starting to think about girl love irl it gets kinda difficult(and im not going into whole discussion about difference between yuri and lesbian irl that sometimes going in my head), so i say again it is a taste think, i first saw it when i was looking through all anime possible and stumble upon sakura trick, i realised that this is exactly what was missing in my life from first kiss scene, from that moment it went down( or up? Depends how you look at this), so i repeat myself third time it is taste thing, if you like girls kissing or even something more lewder like h-hand h-h-holding, than go for it, if not than just dont. Im just skipping all psychological reasons, cause i dont really care about it, and im too lazy to think about it, i just like it. Am i getting excited when reading, in some cases, if its written well than sure, just like with anything else. The only difference now, is my preferences, when i first discover yuri, i read all i could, fluff, drama, psychological dark shit, and now i just want yo enjoy light hearted full of fluffiness stories. So if you like this then read if not then again just dont.
Honestly? Both BL and GL are basically shoujo to me. Though with a slightly different focus and some differing tropes too. Expanding a bit on it, something that is very common in shoujos, is that the story is all about the heroine, everything revolves around the heroine and she is the only character that really matters... Like, sure, there is the Male Lead that she is generally in love with, but this male lead is very often either a 100% perfect and bland guy, or an evil delinquent that has a cute side only for the heroine... And is 100% bland too. It's sadly rare to find interesting male leads in shoujo, while interesting heroines are pretty easy to find. GL and BL on the other hand, tend to be about the couple. Often times I can't quite discern one of the two as the main character and it often changes between them both. They both matter and they're both developed... It still often times follow many of the usual shoujo tropes, but with a different dynamic and different characters, under different worries. Overall, I ended up taking a great liking to GL mainly because it gave the lovely feeling I get from reading shoujo, but without the bland and underwhelming perfect male lead that constantly plagues the genre. The story gets a lot better to me when I see both leads being developed instead of just the heroine~ BL is pretty similar in that aspect, but... I love mangas mostly, and GL art is a lot more to my taste than BL's so... There you go, it's basically shoujo IMO, but better~
Yeah, for me its especially with Chinese novels, when there usually same couple chemistry in most stories with female lead(with some minor differences), but mostly its like strong at first female lead then shows up arrogant male lead, which first irritates fl but then some past trauma gets revealed and fl getting softer to ml. But the best thing is that when im imagining instead of male lead female , and it turns into yuri(even if its in my head) then all these male lead flaws turn into nothing and i dont give a thing about all plot holes and everything. Thats also why i cant wait when there is gonna be more ch yuri novels, that already recently increased in numbers, and when there is gonna be more chapters that i can read in one go.
I am a fan of yuri/shoujo ai/Girls love/GL mostly because i find yuri love really cute (only in manga/novels/animes because i never saw it in 3D) + seeing no males in the couple makes it 10 times better for me (but i still check out normal B/G couple 18+ doujins on nhentai) + and finally because i like girls. I think that you should, like maybe surely most of us did, start by reading yuri/GL doujins before reading yuri/GL novels (i am not a fan of yaoi/BL). Dynasty reader/scans is the website that try to host all the yuri translated works on the internet (i think they ask translators). You can try the recommendations i gonna give you to try and see if you like them, if you do like them you can call yourself a yuri fan (maybe ?): You can choose between 2 stuffs to start your yuri journey. 1) Easy mode : Fluffy romance, slice of life slowlife and they only kissed on the lips / it's for all ages / can possibly be a little lacking or just downright boring (if someone try to be harsh) if you are too much accustomed to action of mangas or read every day 18+ doujins https://dynasty-scans.com/series/legally_married_yuri_couple_book 2) Hardcore mode : Comedy + Incest and got a few 18+ images https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/my_daughter_has_been_hiding_mother_daughter_incest_porn_books Hmmm maybe give you a third one. 3) Medium mode : A good ending interesting story that tries to touch your feelings / all ages (only kissing) https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/forever_girls Now i hope you will be able to understand why we like yuri. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PS: (To others, not you) Guys ! Why did you change avatars ! I was quite confused for like 15s before i looked at your names and recognized them. Now i just don't remember who was AliceShiki or what was her avatar before but still remembers the name.
I changed avis daily back in the day, I just don't feel like downloading my collection from google drive, so I'm changing only every now and then~ You get used to it after a while~
Right now, i am interested in the new guy and curious if he will become a yuri fan or not. I hope he will read my post and choose+read one of my 3 recommendations. Edit: i am always giddy when i try to make someone become a yuri fan. And it makes me happy when i see new one appear.
Sorry~! I saw a lot of friends had changed their avatars into pretty things, and it made me want to try out a mature and beautiful look too. ... In the end, I just fell back on this one. It's an avatar I used a long time ago, but I don't think I was active very much when I used it. I redirected him here from a pickup request thread, actually~! He wasn't likely to get many replies there. So, I'm not sure converting him is an option... But it's not like I forgot to direct him to the Danmei Room by accident
I do like fluffy romance and stuff like, one of my favorites was You lie in April. It was absolutely heart warming and sad at the same time. I also don't mind gender switching similar to kimi no na wa. I'm quite open minded and i did try some some yuri mangas, they felt different... well if there are contents that could bring in strong emotions, i might've love them. And due to moral reasons i will not touch bl... Thank you for your opinions. i will check out those you recommended and if anyone have yuri mangas or novels that can bring out emotions like the two animes i mentioned above, that will be great. Thank you in advance
Sad but warm, hm... I'll give it a try. Maybe "Sweet Blue Flowers"? The anime was very sad, and yet it ended on such a warm note. I've heard the manga goes the same. You could try S. E. Diemer's short story "The Sea Witch". I couldn't say it's "warm", but it's soft and it has that poignant and mysterious atmosphere that's a bit like "Your Name". It's free right now too~! (It has one sex scene, but it's not explicit.) If you'd be alright with a game, "Once on a windswept night" is perfect. I can't give away the plot, but it's totally free to play~! And a little bit different, but "Magical Girl Chimaka" focuses on a magical girl who's grown up and is battling against a loss of magic. It's sort of about losing faith in yourself and feeling overwhelmed, but it has a happy ending and a fluffy romance.
Be happy the medium mode is perfect for what you want with it being both a little sad and happy. Or eat it early or preserve it for the dessert. There is also "Iris on rainy days" / Ame no Hi no Iris. Kinda subtext / borderline shoujo-ai / friendship yuri / sister-relationship. Spoiler : Basically someone die in it at the beginning that is close to female MC. Spoiler: Bigger spoiler Last chapter show a bad/sad ending with MC dying but it's a trap because in epilogue she was repaired and is alive. I will tell you the truth i cried. Are they yuri ? If not maybe you should have told them to him in conversation mode.
I just found this thread...ermygawd. Just dropping by to thank the novelupdates universe for the existence of this thread!
For the 'WN taken down when LN happens', there's always the variable of money/popularity in there. To put it in simple terms: Excitement, fascination, sweetness, cuteness, breathtaking, depth and a long list of others. For me, as a straight male, GL/Yuri has so much depth, complexity and real emotion that it just drew me in. As Moonpearl mentioned, gender roles are less of a thing in GL than in BG or BL not does it much use of the seme/uke dynamic either. Some of the most enjoyable yuri i have read have been 'reversal' yuri where the characters were actually different to what their stereotypes would have you believe (especially the smart/class rep/honor student x Delinquent subtype). GL also does very well (usually) when it comes to exploring sexuality itself and the complicated trials and troubles that girls/women can face when they realise that yes, they are attracted women and not men. Its more insightful when those characters seem as heterosexual as they come simply because that's the 'expected thing'. I could go on for much longer but it would end up being novel length itself. XD TL;DR: GL has depth, complexity, emotion and sheer wonderment which is something BG generally lacks. +1 to all of that, especially the last paragraph. That's part of what makes Villains Need To Save The World!? so great. It's such a great, parodical mockery of brainless harems with passive doormats by having the transmigrators and their tropey harem plans be foiled by yuri XD
I'll remind everyone that there is one more week to vote for the icon you'd like to use as the NUF Yuri Icon! It will close on the 24th, next Sunday. Vote here for your favourite if you haven't already: https://goo.gl/forms/dfvwXa5c063mkTmx1 By the way, everyone, I found a great new yuri artist while I was avatar searching a few days ago~! Her name is MinaCream. She also does pinup; a lot of her art is NSFW. I also thought I'd finally get around to sharing this. Dramatic lesbian nuns for your enjoyment~! Of course they are~! Why would I recommend them otherwise? If there are any you'd like more information on, let me know~!