Spoiler Under the oak tree

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  1. mj209

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    wondering the same… I keep on checking ridibooks but nothing… :blobsad:

    Desperately need to know ANY news! :confusedcatblob: At least confirming that the novel will be updated in a year… or whatever! :blobflag: ANYTHING is better than being left clueless :notlikeblob:

    YESSssss!!!!!!! :blobnosebleed: Totally agree lol need more of this addition, sorry I mean this reading! :blobsweat::blob_pompom::blob_plusone: really liked the art in the manhwa and especially how good they drew the characters, such as Ruth, Hebaron, and especially Riftan :blobsmirk:

    Also wondering the same, not sure how long before resuming with season 2… really hope not much, cannot handle double the pain of not only the novel being on hiatus but also the manhwa :blobastonished::blobdizzy::blobtired:
     
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    I think we underestimate Maxi loves for Riftan because we are too focus on his loves for her. Because of their circumstances and background, Riftan loves is more on physical; he shower her with gifts, physical affection and intimate gesture. But Maxi, she cannot gives him all that so all she can gives is her heart, hundred percent of her heart. I mean, even if I loves someone if he said he has to go to war I'll be like okay, bye I'll wait for you here in my warm bed and safe home but Maxi was like no, I'll go with you. I'll make sure you safe. So I don't think we can compare their love because their way of love is different.

    And this is because of what happened to them. Riftan was born in low social status, he will always feels inferior to Duke Croix and Maxi. That's why he wanted to buy everything her heart desire. With his mother and biological father, he thought that he as a person not worthy of receiving loves. Just like how his mother wait for his biological father.That's why Maxi leaving him scared him the most. He afraid Maxi will never coming back, he is afraid Maxi loves for him is not as deep as his loves for her. He is naturally rough guy and keep everything to himself. So every time Maxi wanted to learn about him, wanted to help him; he draw the line and Maxi is too afraid to cross it because she is herself has insecurity. It is not fair to say Maxi didn't try to learn more about him. In book 1, in multiple occasion she wanted to learn about himself but he was quick to change the topic or end it. And when Maxi decided to leave for Nornui, she actually more rational and level headed than Riftan. She loves him too much to make him leave everything behind and Riftan finally admitted that her decision is the best decision.

    Maxi herself is more heartbroken, imagine being called useless, ugly and not worthy your whole life? on top of that you were being abuse by your own father and being looked down by everyone in your household. At least Riftan can run from his pitiful life at the age of 12 but Maxi stay at Croix castle until she is 22-23? So understandable if she kept being suspicious of Riftan loves for her, it is make sense for her to doubt and questions Riftan every decision towards her. It is believable when she believes her father when her father said Riftan will divorce her when he arrives at Princess Agnes castle. I think we take Maxi abuse life too lightly. Her scar run too deep for us to understand. When readers hate on Maxi for her hasty and immature decision, for her stubbornness I felt it's too unfair for her. If Maxi was written as brilliant girl boss, readers will celebrate her decision to go to war with Riftan and applause at her braveness for stood up againts Riftan rigid decision.

    I love this story so much because it capture a real life love. Like miscommunication, under communication happen in real love. People baggage did affect their love life. No one can suddenly become perfect when they fall in love,

    Okay that's all for my rant. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk :sushi_sigh:
     
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  3. pickleminded_april

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    i wonder why Riftan always says "I won't hurt you ever again." I wonder if it has to do with:
    a) he never told her about the puppy
    b) when he left for the dragon subjugation and he never said goodbye
    c) we're in for a surprise???

    ALSO i wonder when S2 will come out, I want to see the book reading scene materialize. To me it looks so sweet. I am also a Demon slayer (kimetsu no yaiba) fan so S2 is right around the corner by Oct 2021.
     
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    Czaech_Returns Well-Known Member

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    would there be no more s2 for the UOT Manhwa? I haven't heard when will be the release.
     
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    Thank you so much for this incredible tutorial!! You're incredibly awesome!
     
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    Don’t mind me. Just saving this
     
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    I don't hate on Maxi and I see what you are saying but in book 2 she really triggers me at times, I get that her character has had a horrid life and spent it being told she is worthless. But it was Riftan that helped her see she is not and that she does has worth, he cared for her when she was at her weakest and still cares for her now she has grown and become a stronger person. However Maxi seems to forget that her actions have consequences. She is adamant she wants to go to fight the second war not because it is to help Riftan but to prove that she can and that she is not the weak person she was before. But other than some Barrier spells and a bit of sword training she has no actual means to protects herself. How many times would she have died if it had not been for Riftan, Yuri or another of the RDK. She is putting others in danger as they are trying to protect her so how well are they also then able to protect themselves, Riftan has made dangerous decision during battle to end thing quicker so that he can either protect Maxi or get her out of danger sooner.

    Their communication is shocking, but there have been times when Riftan has opened up (his mother, Maxi leaving, Maxi nearly dying etc) but she had the opportunity to express how she felt but instead bit her tongue and said nothing! The only time she expresses herself is when she gets angry and starts shouting at him, even when she knows he is right rather than swallow her pride she will continue to blame him. She rocked back up after 3 years expecting him to be a little annoyed and little pissed, but the fact he was so sad and so heartbroken didn't even seem to cross her mind, she then got angry at him for ignoring her, she smashed his heart into a million pieces without so much of a glance back and then couldn't understand why he didn't want to talk to her straight away.

    I know that Riftan is not perfect either, he swaps between angry and passionate with no real in between ground with Maxi, his need to protect her is over bearing but from his POV she is something he has deemed as precious since he was very young and now that she is in his life he wants to do everything to protect her and make sure she is never sad or hurt. He however does bend to her wants, he accepted that she was on the expedition for the 2nd war and even though it pained him to see her suffer he let her get on with it, but she saw that as he was being cold and shutting her off. She deliberately flirts/speaks to other men knowing that it makes Riftan jealous yet gets angry at him for speaking to Agnes, geez she even gets jealous over talon!

    I could say more but I know this will not be a popular opinion, I just hope that when the author returns we get our happy ending
     
  8. jjcheng

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    I think you points are all valid and I can understand the feeling at some degree. Just want to add Maxi doesn’t want to participate in the second war because she mainly wants to prove to Riftan that she is capable. In the novel, she yielded and offered to stay at the Ethynal castle, so Riftan didn’t have to send so many knights as her escort, but Riftan insisted on sending her back to Anatol.

    I personally feel their main issue isn’t them not knowing each other’s feelings (in Book2 they both know they care each other very much, all their actions are saying it out loud), but it is them not knowing how to accommodate/respect their partners wishes. People shouldn’t just impose/force their wishes on their loved one just because they think it’s good for them. (It remainds me the Disney movie Coco.)

    And I think this is a message the author is trying to convey. At the beginning, Maxi doesn’t know how to love. After learning that Riftan is hurt to the point of hating her, she started to yield and wanted to reach a mutual agreement with Riftan when they had the argument about participating in the second war. And from the way the author describes, she wants to figure out what the issue is in their relationship and fix it.

    One thing I like about the setup of Maxi’s character is that it’s very realistic. She has good virtues, such as she is always trying to improve and make things right even though it’s hard. But she also has weakness in her personality, which causes her to screw up here and there. And the author makes her (and the readers) know very well when she screws up...For example, the scene when she rejected Riftan and decided to let Sejour lead her to the meeting room, she instantly regretted it when Riftan walks away lol.

    The only time I get sort of mad at Maxi is when she throws a bowl of soup at Quahel....I was like the food is sooo precious in the middle of this snowy lonely mountain, don't waste it on him girlll!!:blobfearful:

    But most of the time, I really enjoyed the development of the plots and characters. The setting is well-thought of (kudo to the author), and it's very interesting to find those subtle developments in Maxi's character, can never stop binging the next chapter haha.

    You are welcome!!


    A fanart (sorry I couldn’t find who the author is, I will add the author name later if it can be found.)
    I feel the scene echos with Book 1

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  9. mj209

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    Like the picture!!!!! Really Book 1 vibes!! Totally agree :blobokhand:

    Just throwing a little of my own personal opinion…

    both have good points, but I think the author had written this characters so well and flawed that we have emotions and opinions towards them that makes us get frustrated lol :blobpats:

    Yes, Maxi is reckless, adamant sometimes of others’ feelings, short tempered, but I think this is part due to her character growth… and I’m pretty sure there is still more to see. I think she will mature to the point that will be able to meet in the middle with Riftan and make her feelings and opinions known without being ‘childish’, looking forward to that :blobmelt:

    Riftan, oh, Riftan… ( I May be a little biased as I really adore his character :blob_plusone:) he is also flawed, never had to show his real feelings to anyone, was hurt throughout his life, and just doesn’t know how to love and be loved other than being a bit extreme at times ( either too protector, or too distant and cold) when it comes to Maxi, but let’s remember he does set up a wall to protect himself of his irrational feelings/ actions as he cannot control his emotions when dealing with her. :blobpeek:

    Come on! She IS the love of his life, valued to him more important than himself! :blobmelt: He is much more mature in book 2 as he controls his impulses better and allows Maxi make her own decisions even if they are against his wishes and ends up arguing with her… really expect his character development to be able to also meet Maxi in the middle, being more open when expressing himself, and eventually be able to be rational when it comes to his relationship with her…

    Cannot wait for the author to just come back!!!! Has anyone seen in Ridi fans are even doing 48 hour challenges (easy to hard mode)! :facepalm: I think we are just going nuts lol :blobjoy:
     
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    I just want to say, I don't believe that Riftan was hurt to the point of hating his wife. I dont think that is possible for him to hate Maxi. She is the love of his life, and If he did then he would've never kept all of her letters, or keep the string from the decoration she gave him years ago, or make her swear not to be reckless and put her sagety first, or take her to a room to help proteft her from the inevitable nightmares. He is hurt to the point that he is afraid of Maxi. (Which hopefully when they talk again, and Maxi asks him of he is still afraid of her, he'll say no) He doesn't really know how to express his emotions, and there all extremely conflicting from guilt, sadness, anger and longing. He and Maxi love each other, there is no doubt about it. They may fight a lot, but it gives off the sense of how much they care for each other. I think he is hurt mostly due to his trauma of losing another family member, since Maxi is his only family. Im just proud of him for conquering his fear in ch. 106 and made the first step and took Maxi to their room so they can reconcile and talk and make up and have some much needed snu snu. Its just driving me crazy that there are no updates on when the author will be back. I want a happy ending!! With Maxi and Riftan home with beautiful children.
     
  11. amylane1023

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    any news on the manhwa..is it on haitus too? please dont.... i am already anxious..about the novel and the author....is there any news on whenit will continue?
     
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    Love it Love it. LOVE IT!! I'll come to your TED Talk anytime! :eek:(y):LOL:


    I never thought of it as entertainment for the expedition! -
    For your viewing pleasure, available between the monster attacks, starvation and endless snow, a bit of light humor! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:


    Now my thoughts- wether you want them:blobfistbumpL: or not!! Snicker chuckle chuckle!

    I still can't see Maxi as selfish - she doesn't even understand the concept very well. She is selfish for Riftans love and affection. Well - -DUH!!! . . Jealous of Talon?? -please don't make it sound petty, it is more than it seems - - well - my take is- she is jealous of the 'close relationship' Riftan has with Talon, and with the RDK, and with Agnes and even Ruth a bit.(I just love Ruth, his character is so cool). Her relationship with Riftan is in many ways superficial, there is affection, loyalty and tons of desire and snu snu, but little depth, they share very little together, and Riftan may not understand this. Maxi may not either. It is a foreign concept to both of them. She longs to be part of something, one of the group, to be valued as a member. And to have an actual friend for the first time in her life. She spent her entire life alone, close to no one! :blobcry: Even her mother never held her close as a child. Even the Croyso servants looked down on her, :blobsad:or were indifferent! And her father beat her bloody on a regular basis!:blobscream:! WTF! :blobangery: Screw you Duke! Screw you and the horse you rode in on!

    Thinking about it makes me want to SMACK some characters upside the head with a bat!:blobhero::blobsad::blobtriumph: - Or maybe tie them out as wyvern bait! :blobfearful::blobthumbsdown:- - oooo. better stop! my imagination is getting a little too evil:blobdizzy::blobowoevil_horns::blobdevil:

    ByeBye! See y'all later

    I'll come back with some in depth Riftan analysis later! - :aww:- hard to do - I get distracted by the Riftan:whistle: and forget to think!:blob_grin:
     
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    Omg really?? May I know what chapter this is in the novel? Thank you!
     
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    Please, don't drag the innocent horse along... It's unfortunate enough for the duke's horse to have to cary that piece of rotten cow excrement on it's back, right?

    I do really hope that the horse will finally come to its sense and yeet its master off from his back and stomped on him to its heart's content, just like how Rem stomped on the troll (or was that goblin?) who attacked Max on the way to her first expedition... That would be satisfying...
     
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    I dont know what chapter it was...but there was a spoiler on this forum...
     
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    Hey guys I just curious about Yurixion Lovar Background.
    in Book 2, some time Richt Balton mention about Lord Lovar (I thought that is Yurixion Father ?) seems there is something great about Lovar Family.:X3:

    I knew that someone have take up this (I'm forgot in which page)
    the Conversation Maxi & Richt Balton on War when Max waiting Riftan come back from sneak to Weavryn cage. its about The raising of Roem empire. (someone please help to tag me the page it was)
    please let me know if I'm wrong (since I read it used google translate. I'm afraid if I was misunderstood with the conversation)
    at the time, Richt Balton called Max "our Majesty, Princess" ( I catch that he will make Maxi as his partner live ?) because at the first time they meet in Book2, Richie Said that Maxi will become a Widow :mad:
    did Richt Balton said that someone who can raise to be emperor of Roem is that knight who had Uigru reincarnation designation ?
    is there a possibility Richt Balton Words will be the next conflict in Book 2 ? (I guess so) considering their next destination after war was Oisira. where the Kings of Seven Kingdom are gathering.

    god give me enlightenment !!! :cry:
     
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    Yurixion is from the noble family, same with Garrow. Yurixion has 5 siblings, he is the youngest. His brother is a great fan of Riftan so his brother sent Yurixion to train under Riftan. Garrow and Yurixion are best friends since they were kids so naturally, Garrow followed along.

    In Book 1, Richt approached Maxi because his malice towards Riftan. Richt Breston is from a noble family which existed since the Roem Empire. He was obsessed with nobility, his father was believed to be one of the Uigru reincarnation, and thats why he hated Riftan, who is no one.

    So in Book 2, he approached Maxi because of few reasons:
    1. He was really attracted to Maxi after she saved Ethylene Castle and led the allied forces to win the war.
    2. To annoy Riftan.
    3. He just hate Riftan's existence.

    That conversation he had with Maxi about he called her 'my princess' — you're right. Because he was obsessed with nobility, and Maxi is the current direct descendant of Roem Empire, the possibility of him wanted Maxi to become his wife is high.

    All of the current Uigru reincarnation were from the noble family. Geyhart Breston, Sejour Aren, Kuahel Leon, except for Riftan. Richt hated this fact, thats why he said it wont be long before a mixed-race illegitimate knight like Riftan will tarnish the myth of Uigru's name.

    Personally, I dont think it will be that easy to rise the Roem Empire back to its glory. The 7 kingdoms made the agreement to keep the peace with each other. Their enemy are the monster. Richt's words are only possible if there are no monster left in the world. But, if you finish Book 2, then you know that the dark wizards already flee and still roaming around the 7 kingdoms.

    Their next destination is Osiria, just to attend the council of war spoils. I dont know how the author will make this scene, either the council will be attended by the monarchs too, or not. But I am confident in one thing; the descendants of Roem royal family are being watched by the monarchs of the 7 kingdoms (this was mentioned in the author QnA). The 7 kingdoms was made because of the fall of the Roem Empire. So thats why they monitored the Roem descendants. Its just.. not that easy.

    It's Richt. He is full of bullshit. So take it with a grain of salt :blobsmilehappy:
     
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    Can someone share how they manage to get the author Q&A book translated to English? Can't seem to figure it out
     
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    woooww!
    thank you @tickytocky
    that so Ritch really interest to Maxi. its kinda annoying remember in book 1 he insulted her for stuttering!
    he's really shameless !:eek:
    I'm forgot about Quahel Leon !
    after finished read of Book2. I didn't see any clue if Quahel Interested to Maxi.
    I just Look like He take care of her because of Riftan. still, at the end of book2 when he accompany Max to tear down the castle. Its Also make me ask, why an allied commander accompany her ? I mean, it wouldn't be a problem if another holy knight accompany her right ?
    oh and at last chapter 106 when Seojur Aren teasing him because Riftan went with Maxi. at the sentences " looking at her with wide-eyes, Riftan took her and strode into building"
    Who is "looking at her" ? is Quahel Leon ?
    Quahel always describe by cold and expressionless.
    am I insensitive person ? hahaha so I couldn't realize hint given by the author.

    I also think it will be too complicated if there is a war of 7 Kingdoms and The Rise of Roem Empire.
    some of my guesses about the next possible conflict are
    -Battle of Richt & Riftan
    -maybe something will happen in Osiria
    -will the mage who run away and hide in 7 Kingdoms get caught ?
    -what did Ruth find in Monster City ?
    -Rosseta. in Book2 chapter 1 is mentioned that the rumors about Rosseta and Crown Prince not get along. looks like it's true.
    -Duke. even though it was mention that had been defeated in every aspect by Riftan. just as Maxi said the Duke wouldn't stop and would do anything.


    the Novel & Manhwa are Hiatus
    what should I do
    I just can reread Novel & Manhwa because I miss them so much :cry:
     
  20. Flyinghigh79

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    Luckily the power of fanfiction can help ease the itch while we wait for the canonical series to return
     
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