Votes and Ratings

Discussion in 'Suggestions & Bug Reports' started by Aina Seira, Oct 23, 2016.

  1. Aina Seira

    Aina Seira Princess For Life

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    Hello. I just noticed that some novels with many good reviews received low ratings. Since users could vote without leaving a review, some were not taking it seriously and were trolling some novels by giving 1 stars or 2 stars without reading it. I think that it's okay to give 1 stars or 2 stars, however, they must at least give a reason for doing so.

    So I thought, why not limit the rating system to those star votes with reviews. What I mean is, only include the star votes with reviews in the stats and calculations of ratings. It might just be my opinion, but it's really weird seeing a novel with many five star reviews but with a low overall rating that's why I'm bringing this up.
     
  2. AliceShiki

    AliceShiki 『Ms. Tree』『Magical Girl of Love and Justice』

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    Ratings are simpler to do, most people are too lazy to make reviews, so if they were like this, the amount of ratings on each novel would be restricted to a very small amount of the readers, which will not show the overall view of the majority of them...

    So I think it's a bad idea.
     
  3. Casul Reader

    Casul Reader Well-Known Member

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    There has been consideration to us the Bayesian Rathing system (the one Manga Updates uses) but no word from @Tony yet.
     
  4. Lazybum0

    Lazybum0 Cheers darlin'

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    A lot of novels get low ratings just bacause it's yaois or has ntr tag.
    Or simply bacause they don't like the cover or title.
     
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  5. NZPIEFACE

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    So, what is that?
     
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    Google it? hard to explain via single message
     
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    "A Bayesian average is a method of estimating the mean of a population where instead of estimating the mean strictly from the available data set, other information – especially a pre-existing belief with regard to the population which is a central feature of Bayesian interpretation – is incorporated into the calculation"

    In other words, calculate that people will fuck around with the voting system and include that
     
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  8. Casul Reader

    Casul Reader Well-Known Member

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    Pretty much.
     
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    Seems like a pain in the ass to implement though
     
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    Casul Reader Well-Known Member

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    That's why we're waiting for Tony to work his butt off to make the NU a better place :X3:
     
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    Make NU great again!
     
  12. Aina Seira

    Aina Seira Princess For Life

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    What's bad to me is that there are many folks who take things for granted. Well, you're right when you said that people are lazy to type reviews but I still felt bad for those novels which received bad ratings just because there are people who loves trolling. If the rating system would remain the same, at least I think something should be done to limit those kind of cases.
     
  13. Seppuku

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    Does it really matter? Seems superflous. Besides, a lot of the time they're not trolling, but simply dislike the novel.
     
  14. AliceShiki

    AliceShiki 『Ms. Tree』『Magical Girl of Love and Justice』

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    Say that to all the 1* ratings on BL novels...
     
  15. Seppuku

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    Well they obviously dislike BL novels, so it gets a lower rating right? Ratings are superficial anyway, so who cares?
     
  16. Nom de Plume

    Nom de Plume [Shio’s Disciple] [True Villain] [Equip: Gunblade] Novel Updates Staff

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    Hmmm... we could ignore outliers? But what makes an outlier? Lol

    A long time ago I made a feature request to split the rating into multiple parts.

    Possible Things
    Translation Quality
    Personal Enjoyment
    Plot
    Etc

    And then have the overall be an average of those stars. It would give more variety to the rating system and allow people to see why something was given a low rating at a quick glance.

    It was rejected with a "People would be too lazy and we have reviews for that" orz
     
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    Tbh I would prefer few accurate ratings, then the mindless haters/fanatics we have.
     
  18. Nom de Plume

    Nom de Plume [Shio’s Disciple] [True Villain] [Equip: Gunblade] Novel Updates Staff

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    Well... our review system is barely touched imo. Maybe I'll do some research and post the results in the admin subforum
     
  19. Tony

    Tony Moderator Staff Member

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    I will tag everyone in this thread: @Aina Seira @brasca123 @Casul Reader @Lazybum0 @NZPIEFACE @Seppuku @Nom de Plume @Parth37955

    No, I'm not tearing down the current review system. There is no such thing as the perfect review system. At best, I will upgrade it a little or add little things to it but there will be no major changes. Even if I change it, there will people who will abuse it and other people will complain about it. Should I change it each time someone complains? Nope.

    People will have to learn to live with the current rating system. It's no where close to perfect but I like the current review/rating system.
     
  20. NZPIEFACE

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    You forgot @Shio
     
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