what is acceptable ads for you guys?

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  1. Takeru Takaishi

    Takeru Takaishi Active Member

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    like it, want it or not, ad is one of the reason people serve content freely, which is the reason I don't use adblock. The problem with ad (for me) is that they are also often the vector of malware which makes them untrustworthy. as for the content, as long as it is not NSFW (or loli), covering the page, or forcing me to click, I am alright with it. As a mitigation, I just disable 3rd party request except images(which also blocks them even without adblock, usually). I am also in the camp of not running JS unless necessary, and using amnesic virtual machine to browse. I admit this method is maybe not good for the site owner. but between the risk of allowing ad and be infected to blocking ad and blocking site owner's revenue, I am choosing to protect myself. If my computer becomes infected because of the ad, who do I blame? Site owner? Ad company?

    so... to you guys, what is acceptable ad for you guys? Also, Is there actually a way to give revenue to the site owner while blocking the 3rd party script (@Wujigege, your expertise on this?) without going to the donation route? As long as I can do it safely, fake, automated click on the ad is alright for me.
     
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  2. Wujigege

    Wujigege *Christian*Generous Penny-Pincher*Comedian

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    Fake clicks will get you banned from trusted and premium ad networks.
    An analytics software said that 48% of my visitors use ad blockers.

    Asking readers what is acceptable ads is the same as asking patient what should doctors use to treat them.
    There are industrial standards just stick to them.

    You won't need fake clicks because even if only 30% of your readers view ads, with premium ad networks(Adsense isn't a premium ad network) you will earn enough.
    I can hook you up with Google Ad Manager which is a premium version of Adsense.

    Cheers!
     
  3. Amaruna Myu

    Amaruna Myu forgetful procrastinyator

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    I do not understand but I do not adblock
     
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  4. asriu

    asriu Well-Known Member

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    since using adblock this cat never care about ads~
    tbh as long as it not autoplay video and pop up ads~
    this cat visit plenty adult site so no surprise if adult ads pop up~

    30%? that surprise number
     
  5. Wujigege

    Wujigege *Christian*Generous Penny-Pincher*Comedian

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    An actual report showed that almost 50 percent of my readers use adblockers
    I am saying that even if it was much higher, you can still earn enough without breaking rules and getting your website blacklisted
     
  6. Beer_Kitty

    Beer_Kitty Just a very very drunk kitty that likes beer

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    Well im one of the 50% adblock users from AH site. ;)

    The ads that i hate are those either
    1. Blocks the whole page
    2. Uses gif like porno
    3. Videos
    4. Religion (no idea why theyre there, i dont even do my religion rituals since 15years ago)
    5. The one that opens a new tab to nutaku.
     
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  7. Takeru Takaishi

    Takeru Takaishi Active Member

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    I am end user, not site owner though. Like I've said, I'm willing to see ads as long as I could do it securely, which is a concern with a lot of news about ad network infected with malware.

    from site owner side, is there a method that can guarantee I won't be affected by bad ad?
     
  8. An Anime Addict

    An Anime Addict Half-Shota Half-Adult grrrr.......

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    Dude......just what type websites do you even visit:blobpeek:
     
  9. Capsize

    Capsize Would you like to be isekai’d? ψ(`∇´)ψ

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    As long as it doesn’t have video or malware ads, I whitelisted them.
     
  10. Bias

    Bias Well-Known Member

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    less than 5 words, no pic, no click, no on your face ads.

    Like this one " Buy chicken nugget mcdonald"
     
  11. Mr_Magika

    Mr_Magika Definitely not a lolicon

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    Raid: Shadow Legends /s
     
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  12. Shaiole

    Shaiole Mad scientist

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    Lists of NGs

    1 Pornograpic/sexy ads... like seriously ... Im reading a normal manga then boobs appear...weird if someone is behind you and think ur reading porn then judges you.

    2 Bait clicks. Ads that doesnt really makes sense... or one that will disguise as a download/play button. It can also be something like "you have won 10M$ click here".

    3 Videos with sound but hard to find and mute it in page. On wifi, videos are fine, but i hope its limited on data. Video ads are fine, as long has you give me a heads up that one will play.

    4 invisible ads, like when you click somewhere or play a video, suddenly you are redirected to a page.
     
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  13. Wujigege

    Wujigege *Christian*Generous Penny-Pincher*Comedian

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    Site owners who work with the best ad networks e.g. those by Yahoo, Google and Taboola are less likely to have malware.

    Just cleaning your website is also important.
    I made the mistake of letting someone use a subdomain of my domain and their subdomain was directing phishing attacks at a Colombian bank.
    I ignored their emails because their English was crap and the Colombian back got my website shutdown.
    I had to delete the subdomain and clean other websites that got infected.
    Luckily my main website: Asianhobbyist was on a different cPanel account
     
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  14. Diametric

    Diametric Waifu Connoisseur

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    I think that ads that make you wait for a certain period of time, play audio, or cover your screen when you are halfway down the page are all bad for novel sites. Everything else, I don't mind.
     
  15. Amaruna Myu

    Amaruna Myu forgetful procrastinyator

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    my ads are somehow kfc and bank related stuff :blobReach:
    porn ads are the worst especially when you cant close them.
    I just want to read my sfw novels but those NSFW ads aren't helping
     
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    Beer_Kitty Just a very very drunk kitty that likes beer

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    Nhen+ai xD
    And mostly tl sites.
     
  17. An Anime Addict

    An Anime Addict Half-Shota Half-Adult grrrr.......

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    I see you are a man of culture as well lol:blobpeek:
     
  18. VBS

    VBS Cpt. Awesome

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    No ads are acceptable.
    I'm one of those people who cranks up the ad-blocker to the max level of blocking everything.

    I've got an adblock block blocker too.
     
  19. Jeebus

    Jeebus Well-Known Member

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    Ads are a necessary evil to keep websites operating without charging us money. I turn off my adblocker for any site that I use frequently until my antivirus gives me a warning or until the ads distract from my experience on the site.

    No video. No audio. No moving images. No redirects. No popups or pop-unders. No mining scripts. No tracking cookies. I'm not a fan of inline ads, but I can deal with them as long as they don't screw with my reading experience too much.

    The operator of a website often can't control what their ad network places on the page, but if a site uses a bad ad network, I'm probably going to start using my adblocker sooner rather than later.
     
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    NodiX Well-Known Member

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    A new web standard called Web Monetization API is being proposed at W3C and will be available in browsers in a few years. At least, Firefox is committed to implement this since Mozilla partnered with 2017 founded startup Coil and the org that handles Creative Commons to fund $100 millions to boost projects around this upcoming API.
    https://webmonetization.org/
    https://www.grantfortheweb.org/
    https://techcrunch.com/2019/09/16/1...d-aims-to-jump-start-a-new-way-to-pay-online/
    https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/blog/100-million-investment-reshape-economics-web/

    What it does is for website owners to implement $5 monthly subscription like Medium with only one line in HTML head and money from subscribers will be streamed in real time to content creators' wallets. People can pay once and will get "premium" experience from all websites that using it--though there's no one to define what the "premium experience" is, which websites can get away with providing nothing but mostly will just disable ads, though I'd say it's a good way to provide cheap, democratized VIP contents without having to go to Patreon.

    This is a legit upcoming web technology that might change the internet landscape in the near future. Website owners and developers should play around with it early to find the best practices and its workaround for edge cases.

    Note: While the API hasn't yet landed on browsers, Coil already implement this with the help of Chrome and Firefox extensions. You can go ahead playing around with it on Coil.com. Their website is pretty neat.
     
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