Why Fan Translators Will Betray You

I think it is complete bull-crap to say fan translators will betray the readers. First of all, they didn't promise anything. They are sharing what interests them. It is groups and translators who take money and don't fulfill their commitments are on fault. They are responsible for the money they have taken. If fan translators accept donations and do not release the chapters entrusted to them, that is a whole other thing. But to point fingers at translators who do not take any money for their work is totally wrong and unjustified no matter how you explain it.

 

That is on the basis that readers are 100% rational.
They are not.
I think that it is more sinister, people just want slaves.

 

Theres the good ol @Wujigege I know trying to rake in that free publicity.

 

As long as you don't read novels at Asian Hobbyist then I am all good.
Cheers!

 

fan translators don't betray the readers
readers betray the translators if demand more
the translations of the fans are gifts to the readers
nobody forces them to release what they translate
and that's why we should treasure everything they translate for us now it still can en everything is behind paywals

 

yeah I don't I blacklisted you for your shit ad practices and splitting chapters to two pages for more ad revenue.

 

Hahaha, I am just following industry ad standards, regardless of what you think

 

Wujigege, whats the point of this thread? I'm legit trying to understand what your trying to say, but its not coming through to me. To begin with, I appreciate all translators except the crap ones who wont take time to edit their work or collab. with someone else to do so. If someone decides to stop translating like AnmesicCat did for "Common Sense of a Duke’s Daughter" on Japtem, then yes, it would be sad, probably frustrating for some, but to have had the chance to have even read such a good novel is something to be thankful for.

In all honesty, we are privileged to have had access to these stories that people take hours to translate. To feel betrayed is ludicrous. Again "fan translation" is a privilege not a right. People who take it for granted should stop being lazy and go learn the language. I don't care how busy you are, if you have time to read novels, you have time to learn another language.

Now if money is involved, that's a different story. I wont go into detail, but their is a distinction between "fan translation" and "paid translation." There is also a distinction between "donation" and "donation for a chapter." I hope you can tell the difference.

 

industry standards? where? I mean if we are referring to articles those are usually 1 article per a page.If we are referring to web novel sites they are usually a chapter per a page?

 

Then you can also take translators who complete their projects as 100% rational and ignore the rest as irrational. You must remember the fact that this whole scenario was started by fan translators. And now you coming here expecting to earn money but failed to do so or maybe didn't earn enough is not the fault of fan translators.

 

People paywalling stolen content are inherently complete scum.

I only put ads on stolen content, so I'm only like half scum, I suppose.

 

This one just reads and watch all the futility unfolds without a care in the world.

 

Hahaha, I am so popular it seems.
I will address both of you clearly, maybe squash some rumors.
It is very easy for this thread to be miscontrued since it would be more accurate to but betray in parentheses but it wont be as controversial.
But I believe it is even more controversial since the one who started the thread is yours truly.
Anyway, the point of the thread is simple, fan translations are not sustainable especially when readers now have companies for comparison.
No matter how fast one dude tries to be, he won't be able to release 30 chapters a week like Webnovel.
You have fan translators who have tried to become businesses and failed eg Lesytz or whatever it is called.

I see two types of "betrayal"

1. Fan translators will sellout and join sites like Webnovel
2. Fan translators will shutdown

 

"Why fan translators will betray you"

you droping another novel?

 

Still not understanding where the "betrayal" happens. Explain it more. I'll try to put your explanation into context to see if it holds. Also forgot to mention, turning into a business is not the same as fan translation. Make the distinction please.

 

And how is that a betrayal?
The fundamental requirement of a debate is that all parties can clearly understand what is being communicated. You don't seem to understand the meaning behind the words and the terms you are using. Hence, your argument is inherently flawed.

Also, you are Wuji so that adds to the flaws.

 

I thought it was common knowledge.
Three examples of "Betrayal"

• Readers have complained that a translator joined webnovel
• Translator did not complete novel
• Fan translation becomes a company and paywalls chapters

You can easily find examples yourself, I don't need to name names

 

The [Read novels on asianhobbyist.com] tag of course,i thought that was common knowledge by now.

 

So you mean them going over to a bigger platform, where they can still host their novels for readers to freely read, is betraying the reader?
If the translator translates for just the fun of it, he would never consider earning money. If he really does do, he wouldn't be a 'fan translator' then, imho.
If he really wants to avoid joining other platforms, he could pay for license of the novel. But clearly, he won't as it is only for the sake of fun and sharing his interests.
You are basing your opinion on a 'fan translation business' even though fan translation is not a business. Your whole assumption is wrong, what more can you say?

 

Says the guy who takes novel left and right and promise to release 2 chapters a month or so then suddenly dropping it.