You Tired Of This QI Shit Yet?

Take note that WW is small compared to QI. QI stands for Qidian International. A company with an international branch is not exactly small.

 

did any of you have a look at this? LOL

Spoiler

edit: they took it out ROFL ahahaha

 

Too funny.

 

No big deal, even if you put "We, Qidian are a bunch of stupid people" in the chapter, they're still gonna copy paste it.

 

What if they injected Chinese mandarin characters instead of English instead?

 

Even if you put "Wuxiaworld is the best, we Qidian love them" they are still going to put it because the one that does the copy paste doesn't check at all.
Only if the chapter is in chinese, maybe then he will figure something is wrong

 

That's perfect then. Their Chinese readers are going to see it and wonder.
Also, it's probably a bot that's scraping the chapters.

 

You know.... I just realized the pun in the title of this thread. Don't know if it was intended.... QI.... Tired of this Qi ........

 

I suggest to put script payload into novel translation that triggers once discovers that top.domain == "webnovel.com" - how does it sounds? I know, awful. But this way Qidian could be sued for causing harm to users and ended up blacklisted

EDIT: Might not work. Hidden text obfuscation sounds better. It will work like this: for example, user sees sentence "He was going to catch them" while in reality it copies like "Hqewerwtaysyuigoopiansgdfgthojklczaxtccvhbntmhqewme" - it can be done easily with inline styles tweaking.

You made my day

This is more then enough. What about case, when QI will add a paywall? Will links for novels behind paywall be allowed? Or will they disappear for good?

 

NU does not link to any novel that is password protected or behind any form of monetary transaction.

 

Then it's great. Once paywall, QI will be gone forever.

 

The problem with this stance is the action QI is taking right now is illegal regardless of if they are correct or not in their contention with the contract.

WW's TL contract leave ownership with the translator, and WW has no right to sublease the translations for hosting on another site.

IE, even if QI is correct on the contract dispute, they'd still be breaking the law.

 

You don't know WW's contract, you only know Ren's words on WW's contract.

We don't have access to the necessary information to know if the involved parties are doing legal or illegal things, independently on which we prefer.

So, just let them solve their issues on a court.

 

“Fame, infamy, they're of the same family.”
― Gemma Malley, The Resistance

 

We don't know the contract between WW and QI. We DO know the contract between WW and it's translators.

That's what's important here. And in WW's TL contracts they do not claim ownership of the TL's copyrights. Thus all copyrights on the translated text is owned by the translator, not by WW.

Because those rights are not owned by WW, they can not sell them.
Because they can not sell them, there is no circumstance where QI could own them.

Because there is no circumstance where QI could own them, that makes their hosting illegal.

 

You don't know that, you'd need to see the contracts between all involved parties to know that.

If there is no circumstance in which Qidian could own them, then they'll lose in court and the case will be solved, as simple as that.

 

Yes I do know that.

WW contract forms have been posted before, and we have the words of the translators that WW doesn't own their copyrights, nor do they have the right to transfer hosting rights or arrange it to be hosted anywhere outside of WW.

That's all we need to know for this instance.

Unless you are trying to claim that the translators are lying to us? Since before this was even an issue?

 

So...? You don't know the contract between Qidian and WW, if there is any sort of loophole in it that allows Qidian to also publish the translated chapters, your point is entirely moot.

It doesn't matter who owns the copyright of the translation, only who has the authority to publish it, if the contract allows Qidian to publish it, than Qidian can publish it.

We don't have the ways of knowing if anyone is doing illegal stuff, so might as well simply watch from the sidelines while they solve their issues on court.

They could. I don't think they'd have any reason to, but they could be lying, couldn't they? I don't care either way.

 

Only for you my friend... only for you...

 

Sigh.

I don't NEED to know the contract between WW and QI.

Why? Because WW does not have the right to make an agreement that would allow this.

QI would need to contract with the translators, whom are the sole rightsholders of the translations, in other for them to publish it.
No contract, no matter what the language, with WW can grant that right.

Yes it does. Only the rights holder of the translation can authorize it's hosting. WW only licenses that right, with no right to transfer or sublease.

So again, because the Rightsholder of the translation has not authorized it, nor have they authorized WW to be able to transfer or lease that right, QI's hosting of those chapters is illegal, regardless of what their contract with WW says.