You Tired Of This QI Shit Yet?

Discussion in 'Novel General' started by rwxwuxiaworld, Jul 26, 2017.

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  1. MrPriest

    MrPriest Well-Known Member

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    I honestly suggest you leave political remarks out of this.
    What would you do if your supporters are mostly Trump supporters, for instance?
    You don't want to add another front to the debate, especially one that might harm you.
    Also, that "model" is true, and is a known publicity phrase, isn't it?

    I understand where you are coming from, but you also can't ask NU to boycott QI, as, well, there are fans who do use it. It's better not to drag that kind of neutral group in, imo...
    Ah, but if we are talking about removing links by QI of WW novels, I think I agree with that at the moment.

    That said!
    I agree QI are playing dirty. It's a shame you could not sneak in a clause in the contracts that allow you to escape such a case, like publishing broken clauses and the like. I hope you learn from this experience that you should mimic the MCs of the novels, just like QI mimics the bad guys in these novels...
    I have not even taken a glance in their website yet. I am sure it's useful and all, but I just can't bring myself to like them. They are on the same level (if not worse) than an aggregator site.
     
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  2. thedorkishguy

    thedorkishguy Well-Known Member

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    I understand that Ren is probably just pissed and not helping by publicly asking for NU to help ban Qidian. The problem is that with NU staying quiet about this issue, it isn't doing the community justice.
     
  3. Tramsloof

    Tramsloof Quarter Erudite

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    Waiting to new accounts who are qidian supporters to appear. It's been some time since I bashed someone.

    WW Goodluck! We are with you.
     
  4. Aoyos

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    Pretty sure that just making that clear might be enough on this matter for now, though the issue of several accounts only posting in Qidian threads to support them is still really fishy.
     
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    Kanna Kamui Well-Known Member

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    Neutral ? Pfftt
     
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  6. TeaNinja

    TeaNinja [Chuunikage of the Hidden Teapot Village]

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    I have never seen Ren quite this mad. I honestly thought this thread was created by someone else just because it had "shit" in it.
     
  7. Logicsol

    Logicsol Proud owner of a Toyota Lernlaw

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    This isn't even a grey area.

    Unless QI hired WW to translate as a work for hire, then they hold no rights to the translated work. With the right to translate being officially licensed, ownership of the end translation falls solely into the hands of the translator, whom then grant WW the publishing rights.

    In a nutshell:

    1) WW buys the translation rights from QI.
    2)TL's translate the original IP, creating new IP that's owned by the TL.
    3)TL licenses the new IP to WW to host.
     
  8. Zalpha

    Zalpha Well-Known Member

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    Ahh... I have a friend who wants to know... incase your site vanishes... if at a cetrain buccaneers harbour would I be able to find all novels to read?
     
  9. Awe 128

    Awe 128 Sedun dnes esaelp

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    PLEASE READ REN

    Hey ren i am a big fan but a small leecher so i can only help you with my retarded ideas.
    Why not become like royal road? You can still translate kr and cr but why not expand the franchise?
    Qidian are the overlords in china but not yet in here so you MUST take the chance to expand the wuxiaworld franchise before qidian takes anymore root in here.
    My idea is to accept original novels that you judge as worthy of attention , if you do this i believe it will open a whoooole new world of possibilities for you.
    My second idea is kinda retarded but i will still say it as it may help you.
    MAKE AN APP.
    yep you red that right, why not make an app an even better one at that?
    Qidian has the advantage in terms of resources, money and most other advantages.
    But they dont have the heart and support pf most of this community yet.
    I hope i can help with anything and if you decide to accept my first suggestion i will be among the first batch that are hoping to have their novels on you respectable site.
     
  10. orensan

    orensan Well-Known Member

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    If you spend years of hard work not on just translating but getting a community together i bet you would also be mad and pissed, just like ren is at the moment
     
  11. nuubman

    nuubman Russia greatest love machine !

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    Dude they literally steal all the hard work of some novels!! Like coiling dragon!!!!!! Ofc they own the rights of the novel but not the translations! Those bastards are just blatantly stealing all that hard work like meh!
     
  12. FHandsome

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    I wish epic rap battle in youtube can make Qidian vs WW
     
  13. KeiranD

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    They don't even have rights to dmca, do they? They said themselves that wxw has rights to translate, host and collect revenue from ads, as well as make ebooks?
    If they are so cool, why don't they remove the "non-disclosure" part from the agreement.
     
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    Arumanfi Well-Known Member

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    Can novelupdates ban these qidian shits now pls
     
  15. Reginald Twistleton

    Reginald Twistleton [Lord of Rhymes][Fresh King of NUF]

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    @rwxwuxiaworld Without understanding the terms of the contract (which by itself is confidential) choosing a side is difficult however sneaky be Qidian's actions. As far as a reader is concerned this entire scenario is irrelevant. Also good luck with the court proceedings.
     
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    WELL I don't usually publicize stuff I don't agree with but since it's Qidian ... REMOVED
     
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  17. Loriel

    Loriel [Aspiring Editor][Lover of BL][Pinata Smasher]

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    No one could stay calm in this situation where you got shitty hypocrites biting at your heels in every which way to screw you over.
     
  18. Arcadial

    Arcadial Well-Known Member

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    I also am curious if NU is going to do anything about these accounts that are less than a week old, whose only activity is to brigade Qidian threads with positive comments. Its pretty god damn obvious these kind of accounts are created or at least controlled by someone who works for Qidian.
     
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  19. Awe 128

    Awe 128 Sedun dnes esaelp

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    And every other move they made wasn't?
     
  20. Logicsol

    Logicsol Proud owner of a Toyota Lernlaw

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    As someone that is heavily WW oriented,(yet not associated with them at all), I'd say that's a fair stance, and is about all one could ask.
     
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